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To: Coleus
How many divorced, remarried Catholics do you know who take communion? How many who have been able to get their first marriage anulled despite having raised children together? Confession is a sacrament in the Episcopal church as well. My understanding is that there were 2 Popes at one time, on in England and one in Rome. The Pope in Rome wanted the English one to come back to Rome but apparently he had Henry the Eighth's ear.
287 posted on 08/05/2003 7:37:27 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: tinamina
How many divorced, remarried Catholics do you know who take communion? How many who have been able to get their first marriage anulled despite having raised children together?

I suspect in time that the Catholic church will ordain woman and homosexuals as well.

A little leaven.

288 posted on 08/05/2003 7:40:47 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: tinamina
The only time there were "two popes" was during the Avignon Crisis. During that time there were "two popes" though one was an anti-pope, elected by his allies who didn't like the result of the papal conclave and instead chose to elect a candidate of their own choosing. There was one English pope to my knowledge, Hadrian IV, but he was in the early middle ages.

As to the period of Henry VIII, you might be refering to Cardinal Wolsey, not a Pope, but someone who held the King's ear. The one Pope was Clement XII (I think).
289 posted on 08/05/2003 7:40:59 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: tinamina
There were three rival popes at one time anathematizing and excommunicating one another. Moral perfidy was the rule rather than the exception among popes during the renaissance era. Roman Catholic brothers and sisters who try to use this crisis in the ECUSA to denigrate other believers in Christ and other branches of His Church seem to be awfully self-righteous and blind to the errors and sins of the Roman Church in the past and present.

No church in the New Testament era was without sin, some were riven through with sexual sin (Church at Corinth) yet they were still addressed as churches by Paul and others. All of our denominations, even "non-denominational" and "home" churches are yet imperfect.

The history of the church is a history of sinners and sin, because those are the folks who make up Christ's body. Like Noah's ark, we might not be able to stand the stench inside the ark if the storm weren't so bad outside.

Rather than killing other wounded Christians on the battlefield, we ought to encourage and assist those in the midst of battling errors.
499 posted on 08/08/2003 7:40:40 AM PDT by PresbyRev
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