[Honorary Serb]

Well, now they've gone and done it, as I originally expected. Lord have mercy.

"When the Episcopalians sneeze, the Lutherans catch cold." Our ELCA convention will be next week, with some expected gay-related action, but no fireworks as in the Episcopal convention. That will come in 2005--I fully expect the gays to get there way in the ELCA also.

The only hope (?) is if the conservative Episcopalians split (starting in October?) and the ELCA mis-leaders get scared that their budget will go down the drain when our conservatives split as well. I almost surely will be part of any such exodus, and I won't be quiet about it.

We all need to pray for and help each other, as good Christians always do.

[Destro]

I say this from a secular rational point of view. I can't understand how you can read the New Testament and find approval for homosexuality. Even if you are not a Christian, just a scholar you can't find anything but condemnation for homosexuality. I mean this decision is for the Episcopalians to make alone-I am not of their creed-but what justification in scripture do they find to accept homosexuality?

[Guenevere]

#118...We were in the Lutheran church (ALC) for 12 years....BEFORE we became PCA Presbyterian.

We left the Lutheran church when it became the ELCA because of the liberal leanings of the heirarchy.

[jwalsh07]

The only hope (?) is if the conservative Episcopalians split (starting in October?) and the ELCA mis-leaders get scared that their budget will go down the drain when our conservatives split as well. I almost surely will be part of any such exodus, and I won't be quiet about it.

My daughter married an Episcoplian. He has spoken with his pastor in Northern Georgia to tell him that his family could no longer attend the Episcopal Church should this fellow become a bishop.

His pastor told him that leaving that church would not be necessary because they would split from the US Episcopal Church.

That made Grandpa, that's me, a happy guy.

[aberaussie]

"When the Episcopalians sneeze, the Lutherans catch cold." Our ELCA convention will be next week, with some expected gay-related action, but no fireworks as in the Episcopal convention. That will come in 2005--I fully expect the gays to get there way in the ELCA also.

I am an ELCA Lutheran as well. I have been leading a class presenting "the other side" of the homosexual issue using Dr. Strommen's video series. Our members are very concerned about where we are going, needless to say.

As for what will happen in 2005, there are already mutterings about putting the vote off until 2007 because they say the sexuality study will not be complete until then (how long does it take to study this issue?). I personally hope the vote is in 2005 because it is here in FL and I want to be there to protest....wonder if we could get a Freep going for the Lutherans?