Why Frist and all won't go 24/7 (Vanity)

vanity | 8/4/03 | votelife

[votelife]

thank you; the reason I'm not too upset is because I think we're winning the Judge issue. Oh, I called up Menendez's office (the "Estrada's not Hispanic enough" Congressman) and rationally explained why I thought his criticism of Estrada was a disgrace.

[votelife]

thank you MeeknMing, btw, love the pictures you post.

Free Bill (not Jefferson, Pryor!)

[MeekOneGOP]

Thank you ! You made my day!

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[Jim Noble]

Now, if a Supreme Court justice retires, than this analysis goes out the window, and it would be time to go nuclear.

For any nominee who would be worth it, the GOP does not have the votes.

There are 55 or 56 hard baby-killing votes in the Senate as it is now constituted, and nothing you or I or Frist or Bush says or does can change that. There is zero chance-ZERO-that any person who does not swear allegiance to Roe v. Wade, convincingly, could be confirmed by this Senate.

The baby killers will never allow a prolife Souter, they are too smart and their opposition research is too diligent.

Only the election on 11/2/04 can do so. Talk of "going nuclear" is just bluster, Frist most certainly does not have the votes.

[Jim Noble]

The Congress already has the authority to disband or restructure all the courts under the Supreme Court. Why not just abolish all the courts and start over?

Because there is a strong pro-death majority in the Senate and they would never stand for it.

[Jim Noble]

The House could draw up articles of impeachment for large numbers of liberal federal judges on the grounds that they have violated their oaths of office by issuing tortured misinterpretations of clear laws

There are not 70 votes in the House for that.

[votelife]

you may be right, but many Dems voted for Scalia, and many voted for Rhenquist. Specter voted for both and he voted for Thomas. So with the right political pressure, I don't think we know. That being said, I hope there are no retirements until AFTER the election.

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[votelife]

in light of today's disaster, with Estrada I've bumped this. I put almost ALL of the blame on the Dems. Frist, Bush they bear some responsibility since they could have pushed harder, but Freepers might want to consider that maybe Estrada didn't want to be in limbo for the indefinite future! Estrada is human, he's not just a part in a conservative machine! So I urge FR to take a deep breath, contact your Senators and put the VAST majority of the blame on the Democrats.

[rrrod]

i agree with your assesment...the MONICA LEWINSKY republicans should be ashamed of themselves...call em and tell them so!

[hchutch]

Can't even blame them... from the way things are going, it looks like Estrada pulled the nomination without so much as a heads-up.

[votelife]

I hope Estrada and Bush have something up their sleaves bc otherwise, shortsighted conservatives may bale, and the Dems feel victorious.

[votelife]

don't forget the Borking of Estrada

[votelife]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/994423/posts

Check out Lindsay Graham, from Byron York's good Pickering column:



Graham took as his starting point a statement that Schumer had made earlier in the meeting. Slamming Pickering over the cross-burning case, and then criticizing the White House for nominating him, Schumer said, "We'd prefer to find consensus, agreement, and comity. But if the administration insists on a fight, then a fight they'll get."

"If I thought that Judge Pickering somehow condoned cross burning, it would be the easiest decision in the world to vote no," Graham began. "And if you really believe that, then you're absolutely right, you should vote no."

The truth is, the man's been under siege for a couple of years now, and I can only imagine what he and his family went through. It's been total hell. There's nothing worse you can say about somebody other than they're a racist. And there's nothing worse you can say about a southern white person than that they're a racist. We have to live with that all the time, and it's our own fault to a certain extent.
In my state, 31-percent African American, we're a long way away from South Carolina being where it should be. The incomes in my state of African Americans are dramatically lower than the population as a whole. So I don't want anyone to leave this room today thinking that we've fixed our racial problems in the South. We have not.

But I tell you, you need to look at your own states and see if you've fixed them in your state. There's a long way to go, and beating on this good man is not going to make us a better nation.

The reason we're here is that you all have chosen a handful of nominees — and there are not many, but one is too many — and you've used the tactic of stopping them from having a vote up or down on the floor. And we will respond in the future, and the country will be the great loser.

What's happening is going to doom the future of the U.S. Senate, because if you think the people on my side of the aisle, when there's a Democratic president, are going to sit back and not do the same thing — that's just naive.

This is history being made in the United States Senate. This is horrible history. It's happening on our watch. God, I wish I could fix it. But I don't see it being fixed.

Senator Schumer said let the fight begin. The fight has begun, and the fight needs to be taken to its logical conclusion. We need to break these filibusters, we need to bring reason back to the table, and we need to stop taking good men and women who are well qualified by the bar association and saying that they are racists.

Do you know what it must have been like in 1967 to get on the stand and testify against the Ku Klux Klan in Mississippi? Do you have any idea what courage that took? Shame on you.

By the end, Graham was nearly in tears and the room was silent. It was an almost stunning conclusion to a meeting that had just a few minutes before seemed entirely recycled and pre-scripted.

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[votelife]

Graham retires, who-hoo!

Senator Webster?

[votelife]

Bush in his SOTU speech said that if activist judges continue to thwart the will of the people on this important issue (gay marriage) than the constitutional amendment is the only recourse...

translation, Bush is serious about the judges. Recess of Pickering shows that. He offered it to others apparently, but since it's temporary, others passed. This will be a big issue in the election, especially with FReepers helping to make it a big issue.

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