[lepton]

My point is that while the premise of the value of grandparents seems reasonable, and that undoubtedly grandparents have a unique relationship with grandchildren, the other part of the premise - that laws guaranteeing visitation should be upheld or supported - is wrong. While the child not having access to the grandparents may be regrettable, far more harm is caused by the governmental intrusion that would clumsily mandate it.

[GrandMoM]

While the child not having access to the grandparents may be regrettable, far more harm is caused by the governmental intrusion that would clumsily mandate it.

....would I lie down and take it if my children took my grandchilden away???

BLOODY HE!! NO!

I fight it with everything I had and take it to the highest court there is.