[DugwayDuke]

"This has nothing to do with legal American workers."

BS! It has everything to do with "legal" American workers. It means that "legal" American workers can get goods and services at lower cost produced by more efficient companies rather than having to pay higher costs to inefficient companies providing inferior goods and services.

"It means the stockbrokers and the bankers will get more money, that's all."

Oh, yes, the "greedy capitalists". You do realize this sounds rather "Marxist"?

[raybbr]

Oh, yes, the "greedy capitalists". You do realize this sounds rather "Marxist"?

Whatever it sounds like, it's true.

Why can't you buy stocks directly from a company? Why do you have to go through the stock market? Why do banks pay 1.5% for money and we are paying 12-26% for the money we borrow? Don't tell me there isn't a mass gouging of the American people by the money industry. Besides, it's all on paper. Isn't that what caused the collapse of 1999? No tangible assests. Everything was on paper and when buying paper with paper collapsed so did our economy.

[harpseal]

BS! It has everything to do with "legal" American workers. It means that "legal" American workers can get goods and services at lower cost produced by more efficient companies rather than having to pay higher costs to inefficient companies providing inferior goods and services.

You are ignoring the currency controls, OPIC and many other pgovernment policies that are encouraging the deindustrialization of the USA.

Yes, the "greedy capitalists". You do realize this sounds rather "Marxist"?

Now since you are pushing the internationalist line which is Marxist I would not be criticiszing those who are noting the short term beneficiaries of these policies.

[LS]

The problem is, I'm a stock HOLDER, so I get the money too. And so does my retired mother. And so do all the employees at my school. So it is not accurate to blame "stockbrokers" and "bankers" when ANY American who holds securities or pension funds with securities benefits from the efficiencies.

[FITZ]

Oh, yes, the "greedy capitalists". You do realize this sounds rather "Marxist"?

You need to realize that in China, that government actively promotes business ---- when a business starts up, the government provides the building, the electricity but compare that to here where the government does everything it can to hamper business. An American small businessman gets no support at all from the government ----quite the opposite. It's a little hard to compete with businesses which have their government behind them and encouraging them ---even owning them.