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Like I said, I'm OK with incrementalism when that's the best available course, and also when it's genuine, and not a lipstick job on what's really incremental retreat. Republicans buy into the latter trap far too often.

But also we need to remember that there are times when it's best to get into a slugfest, with the full determination to win, and crush our opponents.

Their are many arts in political war.

What you are doing is not okay with me. It is despicable. I am not the King in FReeperdom. But I am a FReeper, and I can out you. For instance:

when it's genuine

a lipstick job

what's really incremental retreat

buy into

trap

You have been spreading lies throughout this thread by couching them in terms you hope will convince others you are sincerely 'questioning.'

there are times when it's best to get into a slugfest, with the full determination to win, and crush our opponents

You sure have been slugging away here.

Their are many arts in political war.

It's pretty obvious to me now what you are doing. I hope it is equally obvious to others who have been following this thread. I'm saddened by it, because I never would have thought Sabertooth capable of sinking so low.