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To: Yeti
So, do you think the pro-life groups and organizations that support this bill are also in on this political scam? Is Phyllis Schlafly part of the scam? Is Alan Keyes scamming us? How about the Concerened Women For America? They seem to have a lot of confidence in this bill. Are we now to believe that the GOP haters who oppose this legislation, ie, the Libertarians, paleocons, Buchananites, Reformers, and, apparently, the Constitution Party, along with the Democrats, Socialists, liberals, et al, are correct and the pro-life, pro-family and religious leaders and organizations who support it have been scamming us all this time?

246 posted on 08/05/2003 4:28:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Are we now to believe that the GOP haters who oppose this legislation, ie, the Libertarians, paleocons, Buchananites, Reformers, and, apparently, the Constitution Party, along with the Democrats, Socialists, liberals, et al, are correct

Yeah I know, I promised to drop out. But I can't leave without correcting any impression you may have that I belong in the above mentioned groups. I have been voting and working for the Republican party since before most of you were born (1958). I have never voted for a Democrat, Libertarian, Buchananite, Perotista, Constitution party, etc. I voted for GW Bush, and I voted for his father twice. In fact, I have never NOT voted for the Republican candidate in any national election in which I was qualified to vote. But at age 66 I have finally hit the wall. My old fashioned style of American is no longer represented by any party, and I don't owe any of them my vote or my loyalty.

Now I really am outta here.

257 posted on 08/05/2003 5:39:06 PM PDT by epow
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To: Jim Robinson
Are we now to believe that the GOP haters who oppose this legislation, ie, the Libertarians, paleocons, Buchananites, Reformers, and, apparently, the Constitution Party, along with the Democrats, Socialists, liberals, et al, are correct and the pro-life, pro-family and religious leaders and organizations who support it have been scamming us all this time?

That's a pretty broad brush there Jim. Whether they support the ban as it winds it way through the Congress remains to be seen but I'll be watching to see what Libertarians For Life have to say before I support the bill.

In case you or others are unaware of this organization here's their Libertarian Case Against Abortion:

To explain and defend our case, LFL argues that:
1. Human offspring are human beings, persons from fertilization.
2. Abortion is homicide -- the killing of one person by another.
3. There is never a right to kill an innocent person. Prenatally, we are all innocent persons.
4. A prenatal child has the right to be in the mother's body. Parents have no right to evict their children from the crib or from the womb and let them die. Instead both parents, the father as well as the mother, owe them support and protection from harm.
5. No government, nor any individual, has a just power to legally depersonify any one of us, born or preborn.
6. The proper purpose of the law is to side with the innocent, not against them.

This is one of the few groups that I actively support. Hopefully you and/or others can as well.

362 posted on 08/05/2003 9:28:40 PM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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