[Sir Gawain]

No one was trying to ban D & E's

I never said they were. WW's comment is that D&X's are the most gruesome of any abortion procedure. I was refuting that.

This is one step toward the restoration of Constitutional rights for the unborn. It is a good and rational first step. But it is, admittedly, only a first step.

Do you know that for a fact? That's the question that's still unanswered from anyone on this thread. Can you still do a D&X without exposing the navel? If no, that's great! If yes, the bill is absolutely worthless.

[Jim Robinson]

The key test will be whether or not the baby ends up dead. Kill the baby during a partial birth abortion attempt and you face jail-time.