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To: William Wallace; William Terrell
Reading through all the fluff, I finally found your opinion, which states:

It doesn't even ban all third-trimester, only the most horrific ones, unspeakably gruesome procedures notorious for their singular savagery and barbarism.

Can you show me a doctor that says he can't do a D&X without exposing the navel? Can you show how this bill will ban D&E's, which are just as gruesome as D&X's?

159 posted on 08/05/2003 11:59:15 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
No one was trying to ban D & E's - dilation and evacuation, which is a procedure abortionists use wherein the baby is torn apart limb from limb and removed in pieces by suction - the womb is 'evacuated'.

This PBA legislation deals only with D & X's, that is dilation and extraction, the baby is partially extracted whole (the head of the baby is delivered through the birth canal) so that scissors and suction can remove the brains, thus killing the baby - "intact extraction, fetal skull decompression, removal," as the originator put it.

This is one step toward the restoration of Constitutional rights for the unborn. It is a good and rational first step. But it is, admittedly, only a first step.

Is a baby not walking because it has only taken one step? Or will you praise him/her and encourage him/her to keep going? I submit that a first step is a good indication that the baby will be running, jumping, and skipping soon, Lord willing.

166 posted on 08/05/2003 12:20:04 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: Sir Gawain
Can you show me a doctor that says he can't do a D&X without exposing the navel? Can you show how this bill will ban D&E's, which are just as gruesome as D&X's?

*sigh* Try sometime to write legislation that will withstand Clintonian hairsplitting. It can't be done. The drafters' aim was a tad more modest but daunting enough for mere mortals: i.e., write a PBA law that will withstand constitutional scrutiny by the current SCOTUS. If O'Connor who wrote the majority opinion in Stenberg is true to her word, they will have succeeded.

Since D and E procedures are typically performed as late as the 24th week (Taber's/Medline/various other sources), I've already stated the law wouldn't achieve as much. It also doesn't roll back rent control laws or the designated hitter rule, among other failings.


199 posted on 08/05/2003 1:27:29 PM PDT by William Wallace (“This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end.”)
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