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1 posted on 08/02/2003 3:06:27 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ambrose
I know we have not done this for awhile, but, religion of peace alert.
2 posted on 08/02/2003 3:09:49 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: dennisw
"Yes, it is the Muslims – not the white Europeans who were the first and greatest slave traders" Sho'nuff some surprise to the Romans that they were not white Europeans!

And hey, folks, the Spartans were also Europeans. Their society consisted of mostly slaves with a few guards ~ those guards are the Spartans we look back on in awe.

Then there were the Egyptians, the Babylonians, and on and on and on. Slavery is a common human problem.

Any article that attempts to absolve one group and blame another for slavery is, by definition, propaganda and not to be trusted in any respect.

3 posted on 08/02/2003 3:36:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dennisw; Mark17; muawiyah; Thorondir; joesnuffy; MarMema
From my post: U.S. soldiers pray for safety on Baghdad streets

Compare the Christian soldier's prayer to that of a Muslim soldier's prayer to God.

A BYZANTINE PRAYER FOR SOLDIERS

"O Holy Master, Almighty Father and Pre-Eternal God, Who alone made and directs all things; Who rise up quickly against the evil of the impious ones; Who, by Providence, teach Thy people preservation of Justice and the obliteration of the sword on earth; Who condescend to raise up military columns to help the people: O God, Who commanded the Forerunner John to say to the soldiers coming to him in the desert, 'Do not intimidate anyone... and be content with your wages':

We entreat Thee with compunction, that Thou gavest Thy child David the power to defeat Goliath, and as Thou didst condescend, through Judas Maccabeus, to seize victory from the arrogant pagans who would not call on Thy Name; so too, grant protection in righteousness and truth to these Thy servants against the enemies rising against them, and by Thy heavenly loving-kindness, strength and might for the preservation of faith and truth.

Condescend, out of Thy mercy, O Master, to grant them the fear of Thee, together with humility, obedience and good endurance; that they kill no one unrighteously, but rather preserve all righteousness and truth; that they may fear Thee and honor Justice; that they run in friendship to those who are scattered, extending thy love to those near them, serving the elderly with justice; and that their ranks fulfill all things righteously;

For thou art our God, and to Thee do we ascribe glory; to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, now and ever, and unto ages of ages. Amen."

The Turks' Prayer against the Christians

Eternal God and creator of all things, and thou O Mahomet his sacred and divine prophet. We beseech thee let us not dread the Christians, who are so mean and silly to rely on a crucified god. By the power of thy right hand, so strengthen ours that we may surround this foolish people, on every side, and utterly destroy them. At length fulfill our prayers and put these miscreants into our hands, that we may establish thy throne for ever in Mecca, and sacrifice all those enemies of our most holy religion at thy tomb. Blow us with thy mighty breath like swarms of flies into their quarters, and let the eyes of these infidels bedazelled with the lustre of our moon. Consume them with thy fiery darts, and blind them with the dust which they themselves have raised. Destroy them all in thine anger. Break all their bones in pieces, and consume the flesh and blood of those who defile thy sacrifice, and hang the sacred light of circumcision on their cross. Wash them with showers of many waters, who are so stupid to worship gods they know not: and make their Christ a son to that God who ne're begot him. Hasten therefore their destruction we humbly entreat thee, and blot out their name and religion, which they glory so much in, from off the face of the earth, that they may be no more, who condemn and mock at thy law. Amen.

8 posted on 08/02/2003 4:31:17 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: dennisw
To be realistic I'll bet that A Christian Boy impressed into the Janissaries had a better chance of a good life than a farmer impressed into the army of Edward I.
14 posted on 08/02/2003 6:54:31 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (RATS: We're sorry Saddam.)
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To: dennisw
What a hateful post!
Americans continue dozing and wondering why some of us have such a strong antipathy towards Islam.

Ignorance is bliss, and the terminally ignorant just hate posts like this one.
What's the deal?

History has been there for anyone with a brain and the intellectual curiosity to dig.
Force feeding them reality just makes them more hostile.
Can't we all just get along?

25 posted on 08/03/2003 6:32:56 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: dennisw
They were, as slaves, forbidden to drink any alcohol, gamble or even to get married. "They lived like monks trapped - albeit willingly - in a monastery," said Azziz.

Willingly my arse.

43 posted on 08/04/2003 3:40:31 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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