To: demlosers
Good for business owners. If Americans have priced themselves out of the market, they deserve to be punished by the market. We need to get better or different skills that blow away our competition, or lower our prices. I am all for the market deciding what is right. And in this case our overfeed programmers are going to have to figure out how to make themselves attractive to our top corporations once again.
2 posted on
07/30/2003 3:21:23 PM PDT by
just_living
(If that's where the cheap labor is.)
To: just_living
Yeah, this will teach those dirty Americans right for not wanting to live in mud huts and slave wages.
4 posted on
07/30/2003 3:26:08 PM PDT by
Monty22
To: just_living
5 posted on
07/30/2003 3:28:32 PM PDT by
Notforprophet
(A leg of lamb, a jug of wine, and thou! Alone together, whistling in the darkness.)
To: just_living; DoughtyOne; ALOHA RONNIE
I see another troll has re-surfaced under a new moniker, Viking Kitties ALERT!
6 posted on
07/30/2003 3:30:24 PM PDT by
Paul Ross
(A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!-A. Hamilton)
To: just_living; DoughtyOne; ALOHA RONNIE
I see another troll has re-surfaced under a new moniker, Viking Kitties ALERT! Just registered today.
7 posted on
07/30/2003 3:30:37 PM PDT by
Paul Ross
(A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!-A. Hamilton)
To: just_living
If Americans have priced themselves out of the market, they deserve to be punished by the market. IT is not all programming. Most of these jobs would be data entry, keystrokes per minute. The economy is going global, though, and this is just the beginning. America is fine, though, just needing some adjustment to priorities, somethng that is well underway since WTC911.
8 posted on
07/30/2003 3:35:24 PM PDT by
RightWhale
(Destroy the dark; restore the light)
To: just_living
"Doesn't anyone around here know how to play this game." The idea is to develop jobs for American citizens not foreign citizens.
34 posted on
07/30/2003 4:39:24 PM PDT by
ex-snook
(American jobs need BALANCED TRADE. We buy from you, you buy from us.)
To: just_living
"Good for business owners. If Americans have priced themselves out of the market, they deserve to be punished by the market. We need to get better or different skills that blow away our competition, or lower our prices. I am all for the market deciding what is right. And in this case our overfeed programmers are going to have to figure out how to make themselves attractive to our top corporations once again."
I concur.
By the way, have you repeated this to yourself recently:
"WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUPERSIZE YOUR ORDER?"
39 posted on
07/30/2003 4:43:51 PM PDT by
Beck_isright
(Remember the Blue Ridge Corporation!!!! Damn the torpedoes and SEC, full speed ahead!)
To: just_living
Good for business owners. If Americans have priced themselves out of the market, they deserve to be punished by the market. We need to get better or different skills that blow away our competition, or lower our prices. I am all for the market deciding what is right. And in this case our overfeed programmers are going to have to figure out how to make themselves attractive to our top corporations once again. The only way that our "overfed programmers" can become attractive to our top corporations is to move to a third-world country whose cost of living is a fraction of ours. Could you compete against a half-way qualified worker whose cost of living was one quarter of yours? Of course, if the current trend continues, the prices of everything in this country, including housing, will decrease until we eventually reach par with the rest of the world. Then we will have reached the great "free trade nirvanna".
70 posted on
07/31/2003 1:50:06 AM PDT by
remember
To: just_living
If Americans have priced themselves out of the market, they deserve to be punished by the market. This is exactly the kind of know-nothing Republicanism that lost us the White House in '92 and is going to cost us dearly in '04 if we're stupid enough to go down this road again.
85 posted on
07/31/2003 8:41:10 AM PDT by
jpl
To: just_living
Good for business owners. If Americans have priced themselves out of the market, they deserve to be punished by the market.So you favor government interfer3nce with the free market to harm computer programmers.
We need to get better or different skills that blow away our competition, or lower our prices.
Those skills are already in the USA and if we had no currency controls in India and a lack of governbment support for the offshoring we would not have this probvlem which started with a government policy to interfere in teh free market.
I am all for the market deciding what is right. And in this case our overfeed programmers are going to have to figure out how to make themselves attractive to our top corporations once again.
This last sentence alone shows you to be be either ignorant of this issue or merely another hard core anti-American who merely wants to see some Americans suffer.
93 posted on
07/31/2003 9:41:51 AM PDT by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: just_living
Overfed programmers is it? Lets see, where I work the average salary is $60,000 - $70,000. The average work week is 50-60 hours not counting 24 hour on-call duty and frequent 24 hour work sessions. 50 weeks X 40 = 2000 hrs. $65000 / 2000 =$32.50. Thats a normal week. Now we figure it with 55 hrs. 50 wks. x 55 hrs. = 2750 hrs. $65000 / 2750 = $23 per hr. Now divide that in half for Fed, state and local taxes and you have the princely sum of $11.50 per hr.Yeah, those nasty, worthless, lazy programmers deserve everything they get.
95 posted on
07/31/2003 10:11:16 AM PDT by
dljordan
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