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To: VetsRule
Read the studies. Gay folks are actually LESS likely to have pedophilic tendencies than straight folks.

Try reading them next time.


536 posted on 07/29/2003 10:16:30 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Your citations (particularly on Freund) are erroneous and taken out of context. Kurt Freund actually studied two groups and found that gay men responded no more to male child stimuli than heterosexual men responded to female child stimuli. He also described the notion that gay men are more likely than straight men to be child molesters as a "myth". The Schmidt article (just like the "Family Research Council" studies) that you cite is a joke, and is not worth further comment.

I would also note (with credit on the specifics to various Google searches...the general information has been out there for years) the following findings from the PEER-REVIEWED journal "Pediatrics" in July of 1994:

*1 in 219 girls was molested by a lesbian

*1 out of 50 boys by a gay male.

*About 8 in 10 girls were molested by a man who was or had been in a heterosexual relationship with the child's mother or another relative.

*3 out of 4 boys were abused by males in heterosexual relationships with female relatives.

*2% of the boys in the study were molested by gay males.

*98% of the boys in the study were molested by heterosexuals. Of that number, 75% were molested by heterosexual males KNOWN TO THE VICTIMS in an incestuous scenario.

*0.05% of the girls in the study were molested by a lesbian.

*99.5% of the girls in the study were molested by heterosexuals. Of that number, 80% were molested by heterosexual males KNOWN TO THE VICTIMS in an incestuous scenario.

Here are some more studies which report parallel numbers:

*Groth, A. Nicholas, and H. Jean Birnbaum, 1978 "Adult Sexual Orientation and Attraction to Underage Persons", Archives of Sexual Behavior, 7, 175. "Suggests that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male." [p 609]

*Newton, David E., 1978 "Homosexual Behavior and Child Molestation: A Review of the Evidence", Adolescence, 13, 29. "Existing studies provide no reason to believe that anything other than a random connection exists between homosexual behavior and child molestation. The typical offender is a heterosexual male." [p 610]

*"Stigma, Prejudice, and violence against Lesbians and Gay Men" (pp. 60-80 in John Gonsiorek and James Weinrich (eds)

*"Homosexuality: Research Implications for Public Policy" Sage Publications, 1992). Herek says: "Since 1978, no credible new data have been published that contradict the conclusions" [that pedophilia is a crime committed almost exclusively by heterosexuals].

In 1978 psychologist Nicholas Groth also screened 175 men who had been convicted in Massachusetts of sexual molestation of children and referred by a court for psychological evaluation. He found not a single gay man in this sample. Every one of the perpetrators was either an exclusive heterosexual, a bisexual with a predominantly heterosexual orientation, or a fixated pedophile with no sexual interest in adults. His conclusion? That "the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male."

In the same year, researcher David Newton reviewed the scientific literature and found no reason to believe that anything other than a "random connection" existed between homosexual orientation and child molestation.

Also, please see:

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

VR

549 posted on 07/29/2003 11:51:05 PM PDT by VetsRule (Anti-Gay Bigotry Should Not Be a Tenet of Conservatism)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I was curious about some of your cited proof and read up on the author's mentioned. I was "shocked" to find all of your sources on Christian anti-homosexual websites. Is there any similar information proving your assertion in regular scientific studies?
564 posted on 07/30/2003 4:24:45 AM PDT by sakic
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