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To: dogbyte12
I think that the homosexual cabal planning on converting everybody theory is ludicrous.

Glad to see we agree on something! Yes, the theory concerning the plan of "converting everybody" is certainly ludicrous. Just like the theory that "media bias will convert everybody to be liberals" is ludicrous. Just like the theory that "every professor in America is a Communist or Marxist" is ludicrous.

But what's the most ludicrous thing of all is that .... prepare yourself for a shock ...... absolutely NOBODY believes any of these theories! Nobody except the straw men invented by the Liberals and the Libertarians, that is.

What really happens is this --- conservatives argue that pro-homosexual propaganda really does influence young people who are discovering sexual feelings for the first time and are confused about what they are experiencing - and it can help to tip the balance in many cases (but certainly not in ALL cases, and probably not even in MOST). And they point out that this same propaganda causes many people of all ages to be more accepting of gay initiatives (but certainly not ALL people). And likewise, conservatives point out that large numbers of professors are Marxists (but not ALL of them), and that many (but not ALL) people really are swayed by media bias to vote Democrat.

And in response, Liberals come out with the same type of straw man arguments that you do. Instead of debating the facts brought up by conservatives, they misquote arguments they know they can't answer in order to morph them into something that looks ridiculous. Then they claim that THESE are the real positions of their opponents. So for instance, the "many people are converted" argument morphs into "ALL people are converted" because of course it's always easier to debate a straw dog you created yourself than it is to debate what your opponents are actually saying.

417 posted on 07/29/2003 2:49:34 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
You could use your argument to prohibit anything though couldn't you.

Now of course not all drinkers are alcoholics, but alcoholism kills people, and people who are alcohol drinkers offer others drinks, hoping to convert them. Let's ban alcohol.

Now not all people who eat fast food get overweight and get heart disease, but enough do. Heck, they invite their friends there, and convert them to that unhealthy lifestyle. Let's put a kabosh on that.

My point is that these arguments are considered ludicrous on their face. Alcoholics driving kill alot of people. The same people up in arms about this show, tend not to be the people who want to ban alcohol or fast food, or cigarettes for that matter.

Joe Camel was trying to recruit kids into smoking. Why not ban Camel cigarettes?

420 posted on 07/29/2003 2:53:45 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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