[Scourge of God]

Most, if not all of you are missing the main point here: we have the right, and the obligation to try to form society. We are not twigs floating along in a stream. We are intelligent beings; we attempt to craft the kind of world we want to live in.

Thusly, if we want to attempt to change the nature of television, we have every right to do so.

"Turn the channel if you don't like it" is a false and specious argument. Where does "turn the channel" end? Will you still be saying "just turn the channel" when NBC broadcasts hard core porn to the after-school set? Or is that OK with you anything-goes crowd?

If there is any limit at all, then I will set that limit where it is best for my family, and I will work towards making that limit happen.

Finally, gays are icky.

Scourge

[weegee]

Hey, looks like you are trying to take this thread BACK on topic. Don't you know that the trolls don't want to address the thread, just homosexuality in general?

FR is a conservative forum but quite a few regulars aren't "conservative". Maybe they are "fiscal conservatives" and "social liberals".

Good comments by the way. NBC has already indicated plans to take this program to NBC broadcast networks as well. More of Bravo's homosexual programming will follow.

NBC has said that they are abandoning family programming in an effort to be more "hip" and edgey.

[Timesink]

Will you still be saying "just turn the channel" when NBC broadcasts hard core porn to the after-school set?

Since that's illegal and is not going to happen, I'll have to reply, "No, I won't be saying that."

Handy hint: It's not a good debate tactic to bemoan "false and specious" arguments and then following that statement with a false and specious argument two sentences later.

[MineralMan]

"Thusly, if we want to attempt to change the nature of television, we have every right to do so. "

Of course you have that right, within the bounds of the Constitution. You can't, however, pass laws that limit the freedom of speech of others, without very, very good cause. A makeover show where gay guys fix up a straight guy's style just doesn't fit that cause.

Just remember, unless everyone has freedom of speech, nobody does. That's a fact.