Bush, Republicans losing support of retired veterans

Knight Ridder ^ | 07-28-03

[Sir Gawain]

Signed up July 11, 2003. Who are you really??

Is he not an FR approved retread or something? lol

[Squantos]

First off I do not like polidiots of any flavor. They were formed from elitism and wealth and until we have common men and women back in office we suffer a slow demise of the republic for which they claim to stand IMHO.

That being said........GW is doing a better job than.

The PC cosmetic like revenue based unconstitutional laws being piled upon the sholders of the men and women that get up every day, go to work, earn a wage, pay their taxes, teach their children responsibility and respect for Mom , Apple Pie and the American Way . They are kicked in the teeth by those they vote for.

Those that know they are less of a pain in the ass than the socialist running against them........Our aledged best is still not strong enough I fear to wade thru the quagmire of crap imposed on us in the last 100 years.

""Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them broken....There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, Ch. III, "White Blackmail"

Stay Safe !

[Poohbah]

I'm not talking about what you think is right. I'm talking about the people who think the base isn't upset with Bush.

By and large, they are--but not sufficiently upset that they'll cheerfully hand the country over to the Dems.

The ones that are that upset are, by and large, the people who didn't bother voting for him in 2000. And they're PO'd because, while they get an occasional goodie, he doesn't OWE them a damn thing.

It clearly is. Rush is the voice of the base.

Actually, he's the voice of Rush, and nobody else.

"Rush can gripe all he wants. He did the same thing with Bush's father and pumped up Buchanan. Holding his feet to the fire, you know, and all of that."

And look what happened to Bush's father. The conservatives walked out on him. Just like what's going to happen to W unless he stops stabbing his base in the back.

If Rush is willing to do that again after what eight years of the Clintons did to America, then he is not actually engaged in supporting conservatism. He would merely be engaged in building the Limbaugh Personality Cult at the expense of actual progress on conservative issues.

[hchutch]

Hey, I've had my beefs with the administration - not on any of the hot topics here, but there are a couple of minor issues I've had beefs with the Administration on.

Those are being handled through appropriate channels. Are you really that eager for President Dean or President Rodham Clinton?

[VRWC_minion]

The reporter asked our group for some input

200 people responding to an e-mail request is not the basis for making any reasonable conclusions about a group as a whole.

Just curious, what group ? What ax did they have to grind ?

[Poohbah]

Are you really that eager for President Dean or President Rodham Clinton?

Considering how new he is...I would say that the odds of that are better than you think.

[ohioWfan]

He's a retread, alright, and he's carrying what, in modern psychobabble is called, "baggage."

Somebody obviously hurt his feelings when he was here before.......

[ohioWfan]

He simply says what we're all thinking.

I don't know about you, FAS, but I think for myself. (Sometimes Rush says what I'm thinking, and sometimes he doesn't).

You should try it yourself, instead of being a part of any group that apparently all thinks the same......

[Poohbah]

Uh, like I said, he is the voice of the base.

No, he's the voice of Rush Limbaugh.

He simply says what we're all thinking.

What, you're all members of the frickin' Borg Collective?

Sorry, Alice Krige was better-looking.

And if Bush Jr. continues to sell out his base, his base will see no reason to go to the polls.

Like I said, that portion of "the base" never went to the polls for Bush in the first place.

[ohioWfan]

I read very well, thank you, but 'he says what we're all thinking' implies that we all think the same thing......and some of us don't.

btw, who are you really?

[ohioWfan]

Kerry threw away his medals in a ceremony on a bridge, only they weren't HIS medals, they were someone elses.....

And this some how endears him with the vets, and in your view 'gives him credibility??'

Pretty ironic, IMO.

[Poohbah]

Rush may or may not have voted for Bush.

But he's now aiming his rhetoric at that segment of "the base" that didn't.

It makes for better radio (and, hence, better ratings).

Someone intelligent enough to post on FR should be able to recognize this.

Rush has said this numerous times: he's an entertainer. Just because you find it more emotionally staisfying to let Rush do your thinking for you does not mean that he actually represents the GOP base.

[joybelle]

As an elderly citizen trying to live on just over $500. a month, some of my generation make me ill. My father, living on social security, gave back food stamps saying he couldn't use all of them. What ever happened to pride in this country. BTW, I don't get any government help beside my S.S. and don't want it. I also have no medical perscription insurnace other than the little AARP gives me, which is about 10+%.