Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution

Original scene from the show... Friends. ^ | NA | NA

[Mr.Atos]

I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...

Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!

Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.

Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.

Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.

Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!

Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?

Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!

Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!

Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?

Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?

[VadeRetro]

Kiddo, if you want to point the finger of blame, and think that's going to cut it with me, well -- all I can say is, to the extent you think you can do that, you are telling me you refuse to "look into the mirror".... No assumption of personal responsibility there, guy.

Well, if we aren't full circle! You opened the discussion citing a post of Patrick's as an example of how far south things had gone on these threads. Nasty old evos!

Nobody's asking you to take personal responsibility for ALS and C-Jen, but if you're going to run point fingers you need to get out of the pig-pen.

[Tribune7]

:-)

[Lurking Libertarian]

I have to go.

You and me both. See you tomorrow.

[ALS]

"ALS and C-Jen"

ahhh the game becomes clearER

[ALS]

another runner for darwood.

You failed to post which statements.

what's with you guys?

[Aric2000]

This cult of personality thing is rather frightening, when reasonable people from the other side actually stick up for such tactics.

I am not too surprised, A-G tells us that she will not "attack" or otherwise disagree with a fellow "christian".

I find it pretty sad that that includes not telling a fellow Christian that they are going way and above and beyond what is reasonable. That their comments have NOTHING to do with the thread itself, and that ALL he does is attack posters that disagree with him with malice.

It is sad that to NOT "attack another christian" goes that far. I believe that enlightening a poster that his comments simply Inflame the thread, is NOT attacking a Fellow Christian, but simply stating the truth.

[ALS]

Your name being used in vain, again.

btw aric - you scored 666

again

[unspun]

"look into the mirror"

At the moment, I have a sizable lesion under my right jaw. Does that count for anything?
Oh, that's a zit, not zot.
Nevermind.

[VadeRetro]

I find it pretty sad that that includes not telling a fellow Christian that they are going way and above and beyond what is reasonable.

When one of the nasties mugs you, don't expect any of the nice ones to call a cop.

[Aric2000]

Darnit, sorry Balrogg, I was saving that one for you.

Oh well, next thread, I promise.

[Aric2000]

Yes, I did Didn't I, but it doesn't take away from the truth of the post now does it?

Poor ALS, quit Whining.......

[Aric2000]

Pretty sad, Isn't it?

[PatrickHenry]

Somehow, PH, I'm getting the feeling that you aren't quite ready to get into the spirit of this thing. Kiddo ...

Well, BB, I'm sure you've studied this thread carefully, and you've given it your sincere best. You have concluded that I'm the bad guy in this shabby little drama. Okay. Thank you for your opinion.

[ALS]

hardy har

you keep it up i'll just embarrass you all over again

actually you do it for me

way too easily too I might add

[VadeRetro]

I really didn't go into this with my hopes up. Sort of like when some newbie says "Where are the transitional forms?" I know I can trot out plenty, but I also know that no amount of evidence whatsoever is going to matter.

[Aric2000]

Well, after that, her opinion isn't gonna mean a lot to me, because it is VERY obvious who is who in this thread.

I thought that she was actually fair in her opinions and posts, I guess I was wrong.

Disapointment abounds....

[Aric2000]

Poor ALS, actually thinks he has some sort of traction.

Delusional Creationists placemarker for me.

[ALS]

tick tock

[Aric2000]

Well, I am outta here for the night, got dinner to bbq and other fun and exciting family things to do.

Besides, tired of the incessant whining from a certain poster boy for creationist fundamentalism.

So you all have a good night!

[VadeRetro]

Well, BB, I'm sure you've studied this thread carefully, and you've given it your sincere best. You have concluded that I'm the bad guy in this shabby little drama. Okay. Thank you for your opinion.

Well, how could you post "Troll from Notre Dame" to nobody in particular? Or was it to longshadow?