Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution

Original scene from the show... Friends. ^ | NA | NA

[Mr.Atos]

I was just lisening to Medved debating Creationism with Athiests on the air. I found it interesting that while Medved argued his side quite effectively from the standpoint of faith, his opponents resorted to condescension and beliitled him with statements like, "when it rains, is that God crying?" I was reminded of the best (at least most amusing)debate that I have ever heard on the subject of Creationism vs Evolution, albeit a fictional setting. It occurred on the show, Friends of all places between the characters Pheobe (The Hippy) and Ross (The Paleontologist). It went like this...

Pheebs: Okay...it's very faint, but I can still sense him in the building...GO INTO THE LIGHT MR. HECKLES!!

Ross: Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, uh, you don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: Nah. Not really. Ross: You don't believe in evolution? Pheebs: I don't know. It's just, ya know, monkeys, Darwin, ya know, it's a, it's a nice story. I just think it's a little too easy.

Ross: Uh, excuse me. Evolution is not for you to buy, Phoebe. Evolution is scientific fact. Like, like, the air we breathe, like gravity... Pheebs: Uh, okay, don't get me started on gravity.

Ross: You uh, you don't believe in gravity? Pheebs: Well, it's not so much that ya know, like I don't *believe* in it, ya know. It's just...I don't know. Lately I get the feeling that I'm not so much being pulled down, as I am being pushed.

Ross: How can you NOT BELIEVE in evolution? Pheebs: [shrugs] I unh-huh...Look at this funky shirt!!

Ross: Well, there ya go. Pheebs: Huh. So now, the REAL question is: who put those fossils there, and why...?

Ross: OPPOSABLE THUMBS!! Without evolution, how do YOU explain OPPOSABLE THUMBS?!? Pheebs: Maybe the overlords needed them to steer their spacecrafts!

Pheebs: Uh-oh! Scary Scientist Man!

Pheebs: Okay, Ross? Could you just open your mind like, *this* much?? Okay? Now wasn't there a time when the brightest minds in the world believed that the Earth was flat? And up until what, like, fifty years ago, you all thought the atom was the smallest thing, until you split it open, and this like, whole mess o' crap came out! Now, are you telling me that you are so unbelievably arrogant that you can't admit that there's a teeny, tiny possibility that you could be wrong about this?!?

Pheebs: I can't believe you caved. Ross: What? Pheebs: You just ABANDONED your whole belief system! I mean, before, I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. Ross: But uh.. Pheebs: Yeah...how...how are you gonna go in to work tomorrow? How...how are you gonna face the other science guys? How...how are you gonna face yourself? Oh! [Ross runs away dejected] Pheebs: That was fun. So who's hungry?

[ALS]

what statements

be explicit

[Right Wing Professor]

That link is not proof of anything AFTER I apologized for NOT KNOWING.

It's proof you knew. You were given the link in June. You then continued to ask.

You refused the apology so take your beating like a man.

That's right. An apology based on a lie is no apology at all. See William Jefferson Clinton for further details.

[ALS]

No it isn't.
it's proof you purposely REFUSED to ansswer the question

why is that?

HMMMMMMMMM?

[Right Wing Professor]

Are those statement s still on your website or are they not?

http://www.conservababes.com/whine.html

See for yourself.

[f.Christian]

ANY professor who does't know science from schlock QUACK placemaker !

[ALS]

I'll ask again..

what statements

[ALS]

and btw - who are you to complain when you have all that kiddie crap posted on a college website?

how grown up is that?

[f.Christian]

dr schlock and mr hype placemaker !

[Right Wing Professor]

it's proof you purposely REFUSED to ansswer the question

I answered the question by posting a link to my CV. Alamo Girl also posted the link. When she posted the link, you read it and claimed you previously had no idea.

[ALS]

HELLO

what statements!

[Aric2000]

Because it would have taken 3 mouse clicks on your part to get the information ALS!!

That's why, all it would have taken was a little effort on your part, we wanted to lead you to the information, NOT give it to you.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

To give you the answers is NOT going to get you to learn, finding the info on your own is what makes it sink in.

Since you did NOT care to make 3 mouse clicks to get to the info, when it is SO easily available, it also gave us an inkling of what happens when we DO give you a link.

You ignore it, because you do not wish to KNOW the information that you are so diligently and zealously making fun of.

Back to ignore for you, but that was just a stupid comment, and the record needed to be set straight.

We told you HOW to get the info, you CHOSE not to get the info.

[Lurking Libertarian]

I'll ask again.. what statements

Statements questioning whether RWP is really a professor.

[ALS]

aric go crawl back in your playhouse before you get to crying again

[ALS]

post it

[Aric2000]

Ahh, when the truth hits him in the face he starts whining about how the poster should go crawl off somewhere.

The truth will set you free ALS, why are you enslaving yourself?

[PatrickHenry]

Ladies, if you want to know the nature of what we've been complaining about, and you're dealing with, just check out the past 3 or 4 dozen posts. Or the last 100 if you can stand it. Everything should be clear to you.

[ALS]

What we have here is a campaign to rehash what has already been resolved last night.

The idea being, take a complex scenario, and just keep on bringing it up over and over in the teency hopes someone, anyone! will just bite the hook.

quite pathetic and I do believe a chief complaint of AG, who you take license to mention without pinging her in.

[ALS]

let me clear it all up for you now

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/952079/posts?page=211#211

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/952079/posts?page=216#216


the ol' wedge between FReepers trick won't save ya patty.

[f.Christian]

To: js1138


j8 ...


The very definition of a disruptor is someone who is motivated by a desire to stop a debate or turn it aside from it's original topic.

Looking first at motivation...

Now, regarding tactics...


va ...


Well put.

As the lawyers say,

Res ipsa loqauitur

As old wisdom says,

The devil can quote Scripture

I don't have any quotes, but the original sophists from Greece come to mind: they knew how to 'win' arguments using rhetoric, but were uninterested in the truth.


454 posted on 07/28/2003 2:14 PM PDT by Virginia-American

[f.Christian]

the original sophists from Greece come to mind: they knew how to 'win' arguments using rhetoric, but were uninterested in the truth.


454 posted on 07/28/2003 2:14 PM PDT by Virginia-American