A Vision of China’s Future Revolution

Self | July 24, 2003 | FreepForever

[FreepForever]

This is in reply to various responses to Enemy Of The State’s post “The World’s Next Superpower”(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/951088/posts?page=1,50). This is something that I have written but not published sometime ago. Throughout the last 15 years, I have been collecting many bits and pieces of unpublished news (and hearsay) smuggled out from China by underground and undercover journalists (and conscience writers). I’m only trying my best to summarize the big picture here and put the pieces together. It is for you to judge whether this puzzle fits with today’s reality and trend of development. - FreepForever

[FreepForever]

PING

[harpseal]

The discussion of how China operates is very central to any economic discussion. Many governments throughout history have faced the same discontent and have dealt with it by engaging in foreign conquest.

[.cnI redruM]

I'm not confident this will work. The PLA owns much of the productive capital in CHina. Like in Nazi Germany, or in Rome under The Barracks Emporers, power is centralized in the military and will only be relinquished if the entire country collapses into ruin.

[jmc813]

Well written piece. You bring up some very good points.

[FreepForever]

Can PLA's capital replace the workers and the farmers? If you a nation is facing a general strike that halts production and shortage of food, can military might alone help?

[FreepForever]

PING

[.cnI redruM]

Will the workers and farmers run out of resolve before the soldiers run out of discipline and ammunition?

Live is valued differently in totalitarian societies.

[Travis McGee]

Ping

[FreepForever]

We are talking about 90% of PRC's 1.3 billion population here. Only the scale itself prevents any possibility of bloodshed. If we are talking about 3,000 workers or farmers, that's a different story.

What's the difference between ten million dead workers (and farmers) and ten million workers (and farmers) on strike? You still have no production and food. Can killing solve any problem?

[.cnI redruM]

If 10 million people ever agreed to a strike, I think any nation would go under. Even ours. I just don't see how such a movement would spontaneously occur. I'm sure the PLA would drop the hammer on any organizer who tried to unionize the labor their. The PRC will either have to be defeated in catastrophic war or will have to totally implode like The Warsaw Pact.

[FreepForever]

It is your second option that I am talking about -- implosion. China’s unions are all government controlled. They don’t need any organizer. Their common grief, hunger, anger directed towards the corrupt government is the best motivation behind. What it needs is people to spread the news. But, as you know, a general strike at this scale is just impossible to cover up in any news blackout. If it can happen to Rumania and Poland. It can happen to PRC as well.

[Ff--150]

Only China's super-efficient news blackout is preventing this from escalating into a catastrophic scale nationwide social unrest. However, the internet age is making this more and more difficult for the central government. If news of the regional social unrest leaked out and caught the attention of the general public, it would be uncontrollable

Quix, this was my point, in that with the internet and satellite the population of China will be observing the America way, and want a piece of this dream.

Perhaps leading to revolution internally, which would mean arms would need to be smuggled inside; or, the youth could be mobilized into an army, a huge army and just stroll on into the USA through our borders.

[.cnI redruM]

Perhaps the worst thing that could happen to the CCP would be for the general standard of living to improve to the point where more than 10% of the population had internet access. I have a friend in Vietnam who is pretty well wired. She writes stuff about the VCP that would get her shot if they were organized enough to keep track.

[FreepForever]

Yes, the free flow of information is the best weapon against a tyranny and a totalitarian government. Ironically, it is also the first thing they want to control, simply because information means thinking people. God bless and safeguard your friend in Vietnam. Sometimes, a pen is more powerful than a gun.

[NorseWood]

Doesn't the Chinese government control the internet over there? I would think that all our amature hackers would consider that a worthy challenge. But there are not enough computers over there. Does the Voice of America broadcast into central China via satelite?

[FreepForever]

Yes, they block the internet from time to time when there is unfavorable news (ie: the half-million protest march on July 1 in Hong Kong). They censor and block foreign TV news broadcast too. There are ways to bypass them. They cannot block internet emails, especially when text are changed into photos/images (ie: jpg, tiff) and voice/image attachments (ie: mpeg, wav, etc.). Yes, you are correct. Voice of America is broadcasted into China.

[Poohbah]

The discussion of how China operates is very central to any economic discussion. Many governments throughout history have faced the same discontent and have dealt with it by engaging in foreign conquest.

The recent track record (i.e., the last century) of such endeavours does not give comfort to the aggressor--those who started big wars came to grief in those wars.

[FreepForever]

Forgot one important point. We can also hijack one of their satellite broadcast channel. The Fa LunGong people in Taiwan did that twice and broadcasted a 12 minute anti-China-government video clip all over China. Beijing was furious but could do nothing about it.

[Tailgunner Joe]

You mean like what happened when China tried to invade Tibet?