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As new Texas redistricting map offered, Dewhurst says compromise is in the air
Austin American-Statesman ^ | Thursday, July 24, 2003 | Laylan Copelin

Posted on 07/24/2003 5:52:20 AM PDT by Dog Gone

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To: Dog Gone
Hmmm...methinks Martin Frost will have to get a real job soon.
21 posted on 07/24/2003 8:38:04 AM PDT by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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To: Texas Mom
I was upset when our Florida municipality wound up with three US Reps after Dems gerrymandered districts in 1990. But then I started getting mail from three US Reps since I pastor a church with members in all three districts.

It turned out to give our church a lot of clout since we could influence three US Reps instead of one.

Don't misunderstand, I don't like the way the Dems tried to keep power with their gerrymandering in 1990, but FOR ME in South Florida having a divided city was a plus.

If the GOP in Texas need to split up some counties or cities to get the proper representation we deserve, it would not be so bad to have more than one US Rep in a city to deal with on various issues.
22 posted on 07/24/2003 8:53:50 AM PDT by Radtechtravel (Proud member of vast right wing conspiracy since '92)
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To: Cathryn Crawford; gcruse
Compromise is in the air!

I certainly hope that no important principles are being abandoned! LOL. ;-)

23 posted on 07/24/2003 8:57:29 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Summertime!)
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To: Dog Gone
The longer this goes, how much of an impact do you think this will have on elections next year? This single issue has done what no democrat in the state of Texas has managed to do in the past few years - unite and organize the democrats (if you've been around Texas politics for any length of time, you'd realize the chaos of the dems over the past few years has benefitted Republicans greatly). If Republicans are complacent next year because we assume we will win, while the democrats are fired up and have their supporters united/organize, we could find some elections get quite interesting.

The maps are getting better. I did not like the original map that caused the dems to walk. I live in Austin, the original map would have me represented by somebody living on the Mexican border. That was a bit ridiculous.

I'd prefer they just draw up districts by geography (i.e. districts that are not 40 miles wide and hundreds of miles long). If we can't run a good enough candidate to win a geographical area, we don't deserve to win that area.

24 posted on 07/24/2003 9:13:54 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
This is going to fire up some Democrats next year, but I doubt that will make much difference. What the Republicans are doing here is making some very safe Republican seats, and very safe Democrat seats. Only a couple will be competitive.
25 posted on 07/24/2003 10:34:01 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Compromise may be in the air, but there's blood in the water - Dim blood.
26 posted on 07/24/2003 3:23:32 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: Dog Gone
Looks like Alvin will be split between Delay and Ron Paul.
27 posted on 07/24/2003 5:28:13 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: Dog Gone
remap
AP

Sen. Todd Staples, R-Palestine, tried Thursday to ease tensions
with Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, D-San Antonio.



Democrats may bolt again

Partisan tensions grow over special session to resolve redistricting

07/25/2003

By GROMER JEFFERS Jr. and ROBERT T. GARRETT / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – Democratic senators said Thursday that they are poised to boycott further proceedings on congressional redistricting and that they have the numbers to paralyze the Senate if Gov. Rick Perry calls a second special session next week.

"I'm ready to walk," said Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, the Senate's longest-serving member.

"For me, there is no benefit to staying for another special session," said Sen. Mario Gallegos, D-Houston. "I can tell you as far as breaking a quorum, 11 will break it."

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At least 21 of the Senate's 31 members must be present for the chamber to have a quorum and conduct business.

A walkout by 11 would prevent the Senate from considering a GOP-backed plan to add to the Republicans' narrow majority in the U.S. House by redrawing the state's congressional boundaries.

On Wednesday, a Senate committee voted along party lines to approve a map that could retire more white Democratic congressmen than the six marked for extinction in a plan the House passed on July 8. Under the Senate GOP plan, Democratic incumbents who likely could not win re-election are Martin Frost of Arlington, Chet Edwards of Waco, Max Sandlin of Marshall, Jim Turner of Crockett and Nick Lampson of Beaumont.

Democrats for whom re-election would be difficult are Lloyd Doggett of Austin, who might have to run in a heavily Hispanic district running to the Mexican border; Charlie Stenholm of Abilene, who would have to run in 13 new counties; and Ralph Hall of Rockwall, who would give up Longview and have to run in the Texarkana area.

The map's author, Sen. Todd Staples, R-Palestine, said he hasn't considered changes that would spare Mr. Frost or other Democrats, though he said, "I'm open to all input."

Sen. Kenneth Armbrister, D-Victoria, the only one of the Senate's 12 Democrats who has decided not to join the possible walkout, predicted that Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst would tone down the aggressiveness of Mr. Staples' map.

"The lieutenant governor has proven to me that, one, he is a man of his word, and two, that he is interested in fairness," said Mr. Armbrister. "And he's defined his version of fairness that I kind of agree to. ... It all comes back down to 19 or 20" congressional seats for Texas Republicans.

Mr. Staples' current plan could deliver to the GOP as many as 23.

Under a map drawn by federal judges after the Legislature deadlocked on redistricting during its regular session two years ago, Democrats last year won 17 of the state's 32 congressional seats.

This year, Republican leaders including U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land, have pressed the GOP-controlled Legislature for a new map that would reflect the state's shift to more Republican voters.

For Democrats – who last year lost all statewide offices and control of the Legislature – protecting their majority in the state's congressional delegation has become a rallying point, especially after the flight of 51 House Democrats to Oklahoma in May

Mr. Gallegos, a former firefighter, said Democrats are aware that Mr. Dewhurst could lock members in Senate chambers, especially if a special session is called immediately after the current one adjourns. It can end no later than midnight Tuesday.

"I do keep ties with my firefighters that have the Jaws of Life," Mr. Gallegos said. "They can bolt any door open here in the Capitol."

Democrats are expected to meet within the next day to discuss the logistics of skipping a second special session.

"I think there are 11 who are extremely firm in their view that this is not an issue that warrants us coming in for a special session," said Leticia Van De Putte of San Antonio, chairwoman of the Senate Democratic Caucus.

"All senators need to make their own decisions, then we will make a collective decision."

Democrats said a boycott also would protest Mr. Dewhurst's plan to break from a Senate tradition that guarantees respect for the views of the minority party. Mr. Dewhurst has said that if Mr. Perry calls the second session as expected, he would work around the Senate's traditional requirement of a two-thirds vote before a bill can be considered on the floor.

Waiving that rule again would allow 16 senators to bring up and pass a new congressional map. Republicans hold a 19-12 edge in the Senate.

"This is nothing but hardball, partisan politics," Mr. Whitmire said. "The rules are being changed to accommodate very few individuals."

Mr. Dewhurst has noted that the late Lt. Gov. Bob Bullock, a Democrat, decided in a January 1992 special session not to require a two-thirds vote to bring up a state senatorial redistricting map.

Staff writer Todd Gillman in Washington contributed to this report.

E-mail gjeffers@dallasnews.com or rtgarrett@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/072503dntexremap.7017e.html

28 posted on 07/24/2003 7:56:39 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: MeeknMing
I dunno, it sounds like a bluff to me. There was no notice of the Ardmore Rats running to the border. I can't imagine the senators telegraphing that punch.

It doesn't matter anyway. I don't care if takes six months and causes us an election cycle. We will win. The Rats can't hide indefinitely.

They need to return to Texas to earn cheese, if nothing else.

29 posted on 07/24/2003 8:15:31 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Yep. As I've said before, it's gonna happen !

30 posted on 07/25/2003 2:44:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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