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To: billbears
So long as his colleagues...the adoption of the Constitution.

Does this deserve a citation or reference from somewhere? Your Yale hyperlink speaks pretty closely to how constitutionally it all worked out, with a few adjustmemts, of course. Speaking of the Constitutional monarchy, Hamilton was correct that that was at the time the best model for government, but as he made clear, he did not intend for a monarchy per se here in the US. Could you have named a better one? I suspect not, since no other such comparable model existed. Hamilton stated the obvious.

Madison noted this effort by Hamilton to clarify his remarks, and you reproduced Madison's account of this clarification. You still have not convinced me that Hamilton had a character flaw akin to Clinton, but when you say the following,

Hamilton wanted a king and his political grandson, the 16th President, practically gave it to him

I know more about exactly what type of malcontent you actually must be. Dumping on Hamilton AND Lincoln? Surely, you have now strained your credibility here.

The South didn't win the war, nor should they have. Get over it.

399 posted on 07/27/2003 10:54:44 AM PDT by Agamemnon
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To: Agamemnon
Speaking of the Constitutional monarchy, Hamilton was correct that that was at the time the best model for government, but as he made clear, he did not intend for a monarchy per se here in the US

And exactly why couldn't he? Could it be perhaps the people of the respective states may have been a little gunshy of the term considering they had just fought for independence less than two decades before from a monarchy? Much better to name the king a 'governor' and establish the exact same sort of government Britain had eh? But heck read the notes of the speech again from Madison. It's quite evident he felt that a federal republic was wrong and that some form of a monarchy must be established. And if Hamilton did not truly want this type of government why then did he leave the Convention as a scolded child? Only to return later still upset because his fellow New Yorkers continually outvoted him?

I know more about exactly what type of malcontent you actually must be. Dumping on Hamilton AND Lincoln?

Well I know it's an easy target. Considering neither could care about the bounds of the Constitution and instead chose to push for implementation of what they 'thought' was best for this nation of separate and sovereign states

405 posted on 07/27/2003 11:35:43 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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