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To: justshutupandtakeit
[nc 273 quoting from B2B]

We Republicans place ourselves at another disadvantage in the battle of ideas by ripping from socialists a label which describes them so well. Opponents of progress are those who want to conserve the age-old rule of the few over the many and the cultural stagnation this entails. Socialists are the true conservatives.[1] Republicans try without success to affix this conservative label properly to our Party, using as adhesive such adjectives as "dynamic" or "compassionate" or "progressive." Trouble is, though our Republican Party definitely is dynamic and compassionate and progressive,[2] conservative it is not[3].

[justshutupandtakeit 281]
To: nolu chan

That statement is true. It is the liberal program which has become conservative,[4] republicans are trying to change that. Forces which fight against change are the conservative ones in standard verbiage.

What we consider conservative are the ideals of classical liberalism.[5]

Conventional political terminology has become confused and less useful. Whig and Tory is about as appropriate.

Maybe we should start thinking about coming up with new terms that are more accurate.

281 posted on 07/25/2003 3:12 PM CDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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Exam Time:

[1] Conservatives are really Socialists

[2] Republicans are really Progressives

[3] Republicans are not really Conservatives

[4] Liberals are really Conservatives

[5] Conservatives are Classical Liberals

FINAL EXAM

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Wait, gimme a mulligan on that last one.

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313 posted on 07/25/2003 8:13:55 PM PDT by nolu chan
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To: nolu chan
Exam Time:

[1] Conservatives are really Socialists

[2] Republicans are really Progressives

[3] Republicans are not really Conservatives

[4] Liberals are really Conservatives

[5] Conservatives are Classical Liberals

Don't forget:

[6] A monarch isn't always a monarch.

[7] Protectionism isn't protectionism... sometimes.

[8] Capitalism is government economic intervention.

324 posted on 07/26/2003 6:33:34 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: nolu chan
Was there something you disagreed with?
416 posted on 07/27/2003 1:41:20 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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