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New map, same pain for Dems (Texas Redistricting fun)
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 18, 2003 | R. G. Ratcliffe

Posted on 07/18/2003 8:05:52 AM PDT by Dog Gone

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To: Dog Gone
I didn't realize they had that many!
21 posted on 07/18/2003 9:09:11 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: Zack Nguyen
There are certainly some, but they are not so much liberal, as yellow-dog. When we had our sore-Loserman protest in 2000, some of the elderly were very upset.
22 posted on 07/18/2003 9:11:20 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: Dog Gone
Wow! I am surprised to see that the Senate map is better than the House map. They actually get rid of Frost. I would gladly allow Hall and Stenholm to stay if I could see that jack-a$$ sent packing.
23 posted on 07/18/2003 9:51:40 AM PDT by rhinohunter (Toomey for Senate!!!)
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To: Xenalyte
Yup -- plus, the article, like most of them, neglects to mention that GOP candidates in TX elections for US House of Reps got 60% of the votes statewide but have a distinct MINORITY of those House seats. In other words, that the current effort it to CURE and EXISTING pro-Democrat gerrymander. "So biased, they don't even know it" news coverage.
24 posted on 07/18/2003 10:00:21 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Dog Gone
The 'RATS are the ones squirming over this. Texas GOP get ~60-70% of the votes cast. 89% of the folks that showed up for the hearings being AGAINST redistricting would obviously be LIBERAL/'RAT activists (Doh !!) An apology ?! ROFL !!!!

During late June and early July, the committee held seven public hearings around the state. Most testimony was against changing the current congressional district boundaries.

Dewhurst dismissed the testimony as party-driven.

"Obviously, a lot of time when you're having public testimony different political parties try to get their activists turned out," Dewhurst said.

Democratic Party Chairwoman Molly Beth Malcolm blasted Dewhurst for the remark.

"Mr. Dewhurst, you have insulted the hundreds of Texans who took the time and trouble to testify, and you owe them an immediate -- and genuine -- apology," Malcolm said.

Republican Party spokesman Ted Royer said that the Corpus Christi Chamber of Commerce hired 40 people to help pack a state House hearing on redistricting and demonstrate opposition to any changes.


25 posted on 07/18/2003 1:43:01 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: yall
From The Dallas Morning News today:

Remap would divide Frost's district

New GOP proposal draws arguments about minority representation

07/18/2003

By ROBERT T. GARRETT and GROMER JEFFERS Jr. / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – Republican senators unveiled a proposed congressional map Thursday that would break the Dallas-Fort Worth district of U.S. Rep. Martin Frost, D-Arlington, into four pieces.

The suggested dismantling of the 24th Congressional District, which Mr. Frost has represented for a quarter-century, sparked arguments over whether the new map would help or hurt blacks and Hispanics.

Chief author Sen. Todd Staples, R-Palestine, said the plan retains "minorities' opportunities to elect candidates of their choice." But Sen. Mario Gallegos, D-Houston, said the map would dilute minority voters' power.

"You're putting them all together in one Noah's ark," Mr. Gallegos told Mr. Staples at a Senate committee hearing on the new map.

Meanwhile, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst sent a signal that lawmakers likely will have to return for a second special session to finish their work on congressional redistricting.

NEW PROPOSAL'S LOCAL CHANGES
Here is how North Texas congressional districts would change under a GOP-backed plan unveiled in the Senate on Thursday:

3rd DISTRICT: Sam Johnson, R-Plano, absorbs all of Collin County, keeps Richardson, sheds Rowlett, Sachse, part of Garland. The district grows even more strongly Republican.

4th DISTRICT: Ralph Hall, D-Rockwall, sheds east, north Collin County, picks up Texarkana, all the I-30 counties east of Dallas, keeps Tyler but not Longview. The district tilts less to the GOP.

5th DISTRICT: Jeb Hensarling, R-Dallas, keeps the White Rock Lake area but shifts from the southeast to northeast corner of Dallas County, gains all of Kaufman and Cherokee counties and parts of Navarro but sheds five counties east of Waco. The district remains GOP-friendly.

6th DISTRICT: Joe Barton, R-Ennis, absorbs all of Arlington, sheds much of southern Tarrant County, the northwest tip of Johnson County and Corsicana. The district is still GOP turf.

12th DISTRICT: Kay Granger, R-Fort Worth, sheds part of southwest Tarrant County, Hurst, keeps Parker County, much of Fort Worth, gains Wise County. The district remains GOP-friendly.

24th DISTRICT: Martin Frost, D-Arlington, connects Carrollton, Farmers Branch, Coppell, Grapevine, Grand Prairie, Mansfield, Cedar Hill, Duncanville, but loses Arlington, southeast Fort Worth. The district becomes GOP-friendly.

26th DISTRICT: Michael Burgess, R-Highland Village, keeps most of Denton County, sheds Frisco, part of Carrollton, fishhooks into southeast Fort Worth. The district tilts less to the GOP.

30th DISTRICT: Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Dallas, sheds Irving, gains southeast corner of Dalllas County. The district grows more strongly Democratic.

32nd DISTRICT: Pete Sessions, R-Dallas, gains Irving, the northeast edge of Dallas, sheds Addison, Carrollton, Coppell, Farmers Branch. The district remains GOP-friendly.

SOURCE: Dallas Morning News research

Two-thirds rule

Mr. Dewhurst said that in the current special session, he will honor a Senate rule requiring a two-thirds vote to take up any measure.

But the Republican lieutenant governor said he would put the redistricting measure at the top of the Senate's agenda in any subsequent session. That would mean only a bare majority of the chamber's 31 senators would be needed to bring it up.

He appealed for cooperation in the current special session from 13 senators who have vowed to block any floor action on redistricting. Among them are all 12 of the chamber's Democrats and a Republican, Sen. Bill Ratliff of Mount Pleasant.

Mr. Dewhurst rejected Democrats' claims that most Texans oppose a redrawing of the congressional map.

"The majority of people here in the state of Texas support George Bush and his policies," Mr. Dewhurst said. "The majority of the Texas delegation [to Congress] does not."

Democrats hold a 17-15 edge in the state's congressional delegation. Republicans, led by the White House and U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land, want a new map, saying the current one fails to reflect the state's shift to the GOP. Gov. Rick Perry called the Legislature into special session to take up the issue after Democrats killed a remap attempt in the regular session than ended June 2.

Mr. Dewhurst said he hasn't given up hope of progress.

"We're optimistic that they are going to work with us," he said of the 13 senators. "In the back of their minds, they would have to weigh that after we finish with the important business we have in front of us, what the likelihood is that Governor Perry would call us back in and we would start all over again."

Kathy Walt, a spokeswoman for Mr. Perry, declined to speculate on events.

"The governor believes there is time left in this special session, that they are going to accomplish the goal of this special session," she said.

Sen. Florence Shapiro, R-Plano, who worked on the map with Mr. Staples, said it would create 11 safe Democratic seats, 18 safe Republican seats and three tossup districts. Democrats maintained that the map would result in 21 GOP members of Congress.

Mr. Dewhurst said it contains "two additional minority majority seats."

But Democrats disputed that, saying an attempt to create a new Hispanic seat in South Texas was undercut by weakening one now represented by U.S. Rep. Henry Bonilla, R-San Antonio.

Under the plan, minority neighborhoods in southern Dallas and southeast Fort Worth now represented by Mr. Frost would be splintered and put into two districts dominated by GOP-leaning suburbs of northern Dallas and Denton counties. Other Frost areas would be attached to the district of Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Dallas.

Mr. Frost then would be paired with U.S. Rep. Joe Barton, R-Ennis, in another Republican-friendly district, stretching from Arlington to Hillsboro.

Also Online
Texas Talkback: Should the Legislature proceed with redistricting?
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Maps:
Current Texas Congressional districts
Proposed Texas Congressional districts
Special Session: Redistricting hearing schedule, summary, maps
(from the Texas Legislative Council)
More Politics

"They are willing to remove the African-American and Hispanic vote in [Mr. Frost's] 24th District and make it insignificant," said Sen. Royce West, D-Dallas. The Senate proposal is "equally as bad as" a plan passed by the House on July 8, he said.

Mr. West also complained the plan "packs all the minorities" into Ms. Johnson's district, "making it an 80 percent [minority] district, in order to get at Martin Frost."

Doggett's district

Elsewhere, the proposed map puts U.S. Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Austin, in a Republican-leaning district that stretches from his hometown to the Rio Grande Valley. U.S. Reps. Charlie Stenholm, D-Abilene, and Randy Neugebauer, R-Lubbock, would not be paired as they were in the House approved plan.

In a related event, Democrats in Washington accused Mr. Perry of cutting $300,000 in discretionary federal funds earmarked for the American GI Forum as retaliation over the Hispanic veterans group's opposition to the redistricting move.

Ms. Walt said the governor was not retaliating. She said initially the governor's office thought the federal money wasn't available, but later learned it was. She said the GI Forum could reapply for the grant.

"It's always easier to make up allegations than to find out the facts," she said.

E-mail gjeffers@dallasnews.com or rtgarrett@dallasnews.com.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/071803dntexredist.c2214.html

26 posted on 07/18/2003 2:05:05 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: yall
Here is a list of recent articles on Redistricting:

FR Search: Keyword "Redistricting"

07-18-2003
New map, same pain for Dems
(Texas Redistricting fun)


07-17-2003
New map surfacing in Texas Senate


07-16-2003
Dewhurst at crossroads on redistricting in Texas Senate


07-15-2003
Ratliff joins Democrats to oppose redistricting


The state Republican Party was quick to point out that the [2/3rd’s] rule has been abandoned on occasion – such as when the Senate took up a state senatorial redistricting plan in 1992.

07-09-2003
DROP IT -- Redistricting would benefit few Texans, harm many
(Editorial)


07-08-2003
Senators have problems with House redistricting map - Texas redistricting


07-08-2003
House passes remap
Veteran Democrats may lose seats if bill goes through Senate


Above article is worthy of showing that a picture indeed is worth a thousand words:
First the Chicken D’s run away to Ardmore, Oklahoma. That didn’t work, so here they are,
still having a fit during the Redistricting debate:


As King began his argument for the new congressional boundaries Monday afternoon, about 30 Democrats in the gallery donned white socks as hand puppets to mock King. Every time he spoke, the little white mouths flapped.

07-07-2003
TEXAS REDISTRICTING--Vote TONIGHT!


07-07-2003
Race rhetoric stokes Texas redistricting fire


07-07-2003
Tension may soar as map debate hits House floor - Texas redistricting


07-06-2003
House panel quickly passes Republican redistricting plan -
map likely to unseat six Democrats


07-04-2003
New GOP map restores (Rep. Martin Frost's) district


07-03-2003
Republicans pull proposed map - redistricting


07-03-2003
Chamber of Commerce and GI Forum Hire Temps to Testify


07-02-2003
The Great Texas Power Grab - redistricting


07-01-2003
Tx Democrats Trying Fight, Not Flight, Over Districts
(The-Terrific-Texan-Special-Session)


27 posted on 07/18/2003 2:11:06 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: Dog Gone
The Texas GOP has a chance this year to add minority representation at the expense of white democrats, just like Florida did starting with the 1990 redistricting.

The unusual coalition of black democrats joining with the GOP voting against the white dominated dems in 1990 gave more districts to blacks and GOP despite the fact that the democrats had the Governorship and a majority in the Florida Senate. The black dems/white GOP coalition was a powerful juggernaut even the dem governor, the late governor Lawton Chiles, could not stop.

In 2000, the GOP had a GOP governor and a majority in the Senate and house too. So it was good politics for the GOP to be magnanimous to black and jewish dems and draw lines making safer districts for them at the expense of white gentile dems.

The state and federal elected officials in Florida, thanks to the GOP now have more majority/minority districts, more GOP districts and much fewer total dem districts thanks to shrewd GOP politics. The strategy is to give black dems more districts in order to weaken the dem party overall. It is a very powerful wedge tactic quite successful in Florida.

Hopefully this is what the Texas GOP delegation will do. The upside is that Jeb Bush, despite all the rancor over the 2000 Presidential election, enjoys much stronger black support and the GOP is less vulnerable to charges of being against blacks. Democrats have had a hard time explaining why they voted against more black representation, while the the GOP voted for it.
28 posted on 07/19/2003 10:42:09 AM PDT by Radtechtravel (Proud member of vast right wing conspiracy since '92)
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To: Dog Gone
Anythng to get rid of Lord Doggett...

Cheers.
29 posted on 07/19/2003 10:47:06 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
That damned Frost district runs from Ft. Worth, down to Waxahachie, and over to Corsicana. You talk about some thuggish people working for him. When I worked on a campaign against him back in 1998, one of his head guys threatened me all in my face all because a parade coordinator told me to place my truck in a certain spot. The Frost campaign didn't like it. I remember telling him to pour a nice glass of STFU. :)
30 posted on 07/19/2003 10:57:25 AM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! Heather Nauert is all that is woman!)
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To: GOPyouth
Shut the Frost up ? :-)
31 posted on 07/20/2003 12:37:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
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