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The Tenet Fiasco - Discussion Thread
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Posted on 07/12/2003 12:52:33 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford

George Tenet's admission last night that it was his mistake that caused President Bush to use faulty intelligence in his State of The Union address is interesting at the same time as it is convienent. In the statement itself, which is lengthy and filled with reasons as to the intelligence failure, Tenet wholeheartedly takes responsility for his agency.

"Let me be clear about several things right up front. First, CIA approved the President's State of the Union address before it was delivered. Second, I am responsible for the approval process in my Agency. And third, the President had every reason to believe that the text presented to him was sound. These 16 words should never have been included in the text written for the President. "

On the face of it, this admission seems like the perfect solution to the growing problems for both the Bush and Blair administration. It's all CIA's fault, they can claim. But is that really viable?

On the face of it, perhaps. But Bush is the President. He has to take final responsibility, doesn't he?

If Bush can truly claim to know absolutely nothing, then don't we have a serious problem - wouldn't that imply that Bush is either incompetent or is simply not paying attention?

For discussion purposes - has Bush been conned by Tenet? And if he has, isn't that rather serious?

And if he wasn't conned by Tenet, what is the alternative?


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To: FreeReign
It tends to cause overblown, off-topic brou-ha-ha's, ya know.

Well then, one shouldn't complain when they result, should one?

841 posted on 07/13/2003 8:35:53 PM PDT by Amelia (It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness)
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To: deport
True enough! ;-)
842 posted on 07/13/2003 8:36:34 PM PDT by Amelia (It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness)
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To: Refinersfire
Oops, post #836 is for you.
843 posted on 07/13/2003 8:38:38 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: Amelia
Who needs inflammatory language used as a jounalistic technique? It tends to cause overblown, off-topic brou-ha-ha's, ya know.

Well then, one shouldn't complain when they result, should one?

That "one" would be the initiator of such, yes! All others should complain.

844 posted on 07/13/2003 8:42:02 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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To: Dane; Cathryn Crawford
I'm sensing sexual tension between you two.
845 posted on 07/13/2003 10:00:03 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813; Dane; Cathryn Crawford
I'm sensing sexual tension between you two

I see a swat on the arm and a slug in the stomach in your future.

846 posted on 07/13/2003 10:04:12 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; jmc813
I'll give him the slug in the stomach.
847 posted on 07/13/2003 10:05:14 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Unfortunately for them, it's transparent to a good many of us.

As are you. lol

848 posted on 07/13/2003 10:11:12 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Fred, you're back!
849 posted on 07/13/2003 10:21:56 PM PDT by Amelia (It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness)
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To: Nick Danger
Thought you might enjoy this:

IRAQ: A Question Of Trust - The CIA's Tenet takes the fall for a flawed claim......:

The battle between believers and doubters finally came to a head over the State of the Union speech. Weeks of work had gone into the address; speechwriters had produced two dozen drafts. But as the final form was taking shape, the wording of the yellowcake passage went down to the wire. When the time came to decide whether Bush was going to cite the allegation, the CIA objected—and then relented. Two senior Administration officials tell TIME that in a January conversation with a key National Security Council (nsc) official just a few days before the speech, a top cia analyst named Alan Foley objected to including the allegation in the speech. The nsc official in charge of vetting the sections on WMD, Special Assistant to the President Robert Joseph, denied through a spokesman that he said it was O.K. to use the line as long as it was sourced to British intelligence. But another official told TIME, "There was a debate about whether to cite it on our own intelligence. But once the U.K. made it public, we felt comfortable citing what they had learned." And so the line went in. While some argued last week that the fight should have been kicked upstairs to Rice for adjudication, White House officials claim that it never was.

850 posted on 07/13/2003 10:28:39 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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To: Uncle Bill
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851 posted on 07/13/2003 10:28:57 PM PDT by tgslTakoma (Hillary!'s book is reputation-cleansing prep work for a run for higher office; FReep her everywhere!)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Yeah, that's what I meant. ; )
852 posted on 07/13/2003 10:37:45 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Fred Mertz
Wherever did you get the impression that I give a rat's ass what you think of me in any way, shape or form? You got some bad info there, Freddie.
853 posted on 07/13/2003 10:38:27 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: FreeReign
Who needs inflammatory language used as a jounalistic technique?

Evidently the author of this thread does.

854 posted on 07/13/2003 10:39:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Like I said, transparent. But you surprised me a bit with the profanity. LOL
855 posted on 07/13/2003 10:39:47 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
There's more where that came from. : )
856 posted on 07/13/2003 10:42:48 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: BigWaveBetty; PhiKapMom
Great post! And absolutely fact filled and truthful.
857 posted on 07/14/2003 12:55:48 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dane; Cathryn Crawford
Sarcasm is not your forte. An insecure need to be the center of attention is though, IMO.

That's called projection, Dane.

858 posted on 07/14/2003 1:16:17 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: MEG33
(You think someone in the Niger govt. is going to admit they talked to Saddam about a uranium buy...hmmm?)

Oh, no, not publicly. But a former American diplomat accredited to the area with lots of contacts and lots of markers out ought to be able to find out, especially if the local CIA station chief is tasked to help him find the right people to talk to. I'm pretty confident he found the right answers with respect to the Nigeroises -- we aren't exactly talking about penetrating the KGB here.

859 posted on 07/14/2003 2:52:26 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
I have no idea,really.I just don't trust Wilson's agenda.
860 posted on 07/14/2003 2:54:36 AM PDT by MEG33
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