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The people and their attitude drove the tip, my effort had virtually no impact on the tip. The more detailed the dinner order, by anyone, the less the tip.

I know what you mean..... I have a friend who is so cold and so picky and so cheap with a tip, I have overtipped when with her out of sheer embarrassment. I have not been afraid to work on her about it though, and she has actually gotten better.

I have overtipped when with her out of sheer embarrassment. I have not been afraid to work on her about it though, and she has actually gotten better.

You are just too cool!

Group of ladies I used to work with would leave 10% as a rule. I always ended up making it up to 20% total, which usually meant around 35% of my meal. Blech.

"I have a friend who is so cold and so picky and so cheap with a tip, I have overtipped when with her out of sheer embarrassment."

Me and Mrs. Dawgg were on Vacation in Floriduh with two other couples a few years back. The two couples (for the sake of concealing embarrassing behavior) we will Call Ted and Alice and Dick and Jane.

Ted and Alice have been good friends of me and Mrs. Dawgg for many a year. Dick and Jane were just introduced to us (by Ted and Alice ) a few weeks prior to the trip.

Anyhow we would all go out to eat each evening at some very nice restaurants with drinks and dessert and the average bill per couple was 60 dollars or more. Ted and Alice and me and Mrs. Dawgg always would tip well when we went out and so we continued the practice usually tipping in the 30% range.

One night after an exceptionally good meal at an Italian restaurant where the bill per couple topped 100 dollars, the waiter followed us out to the parking lot and asked if the service was bad. We told him on the contrary it was exceptional and he said well he was confused because we had left no tip. Of course immediately were thrown into confusion as Ted and I both had left around 4O dollars a piece with the money for the bill on the table.

After a few minutes of deliberation we each gave the waiter about 15 bucks more and left.

Then in the car the real story came out as Dick told us that he had decided the waiter didn't deserve a tip because he had forgot to bring Dick a beer (which was a lie) and had just left enough money so the bill for the meal to be covered. We later found out from Jane that Dick had done this at every restaurant we had visited.

Needless to say I had an attitude adjustment session with Mr. Dick and afterwards we went back to the Italian restaurant where we asked for the same Waiter (who by the way was fantastic at his job) I took the waiter aside and explained the whole situation and also explained that the whole meal including tip was on Dick tonight and we were all VERY THIRSTY AND HUNGRY.

The waiter smiled and was over the top on service paying extra special attention to Mr. Dick who by the end of the ordeal had to pay over 500.00 for the entire meal with a very substantial tip included!