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1 posted on 07/11/2003 3:48:01 PM PDT by 07055
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My wife worked as a waitress for 4 years back in our college days. She said this very same thing for years. Everyone called her a racist for saying so.
2 posted on 07/11/2003 3:52:56 PM PDT by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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Lynn suggests that the American restaurant industry begin a campaign to inform people about the basics of leaving a tip. He urges the use of advertisements, educational pamphlets, and even putting tipping information on menus. And Lynn suggests that restaurants could introduce a game in which dining parties would have to tip at least 15 percent in order to be eligible to win a contest.

Ooo, wait, I have a better idea... waiters should stop assuming they are entitled to a 15-20% tip and remember that patrons aren't legally required to leave them a bloody dime! How's that?!

3 posted on 07/11/2003 3:54:14 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I'm an Ann Coulter soul trapped in a Janeane Garofalo body.)
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We need white taxpayers to subsidize black peoples' tips so they match those of white people. Black people were slaves in America, after all. </Jesse>
5 posted on 07/11/2003 3:54:49 PM PDT by 7DayRepo
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Who had the nerve to come up with this tipping scam in the first place? These restaurants want me to patronize their business and pay their workers!(and yes, I tip generously, I just think these businesses should pay their own dang workers)
7 posted on 07/11/2003 3:55:03 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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Ping to the black conservative list.

And please explain this line to me...
>>institutionalized racism that exists in the restaurant industry<<
9 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:00 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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Its all in keeping with affirmative action. Whites should be made to tip more than blacks given white privilege. The new tips rules are as follows:

Whites - 20%
Asians - 20%
Blacks - 10%
Hispanics - 10%
Indians - 5% - hey they were here first
10 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:11 PM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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Way backwhen, I hated waiting on blacks and hispanics. They griped about everything, didn't make themselves clear about their gripes and made me,a little white girl cry.
12 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:41 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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blacks interviewed in one of Lynn's studies rated the service slightly higher yet still tipped less than whites

blacks have avoided sit-down restaurants in favor of take out or self-service eateries -- institutionalized racism that exists in the restaurant industry and education about tipping are all behind the discrepancy.

The second bit contradicts the first.

So which is more disturbing: That someone bothered to say all that stuff that completely disregards the numbers, or that someone bothered reporting it as if it's relevant?

16 posted on 07/11/2003 3:58:01 PM PDT by irv
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I've heard old people are the worst. They're picky and demanding and tip lousy.
17 posted on 07/11/2003 3:58:07 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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From someone who's done it - the big difference in tipping isn't black/white - it's men/women. And everyone who's ever waited a table knows it.
18 posted on 07/11/2003 3:59:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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In some cases the difference in tipping may be the result of poor service...

How about our educational system not preparing students to do fractional math in their heads?

-PJ

24 posted on 07/11/2003 4:02:36 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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I love all the articles that "teach" you how to tip, and explain why it should be 20 to 30%. The articles also explain how you can only withhold a tip or reduce it under extremely limited circumstances, like never getting your food at all. I tip and I know all about how the waiters, etc. depend on tips. But pretending there are "rules" is nonsense. There aren't.
27 posted on 07/11/2003 4:03:04 PM PDT by Williams
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Would it be fair to assume that on balance, minorities make less than whites? If so, this is a non-story.
35 posted on 07/11/2003 4:05:53 PM PDT by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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Check out this bulletin board on the subject: http://www.tipping.org/discus/messages/9/125.html?1057729590
39 posted on 07/11/2003 4:07:44 PM PDT by 07055
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I once asked a waiter who were the best tippers. His response was, "Everyone -- at an Amway meeting. They all try to out-tip their friends."
41 posted on 07/11/2003 4:09:16 PM PDT by JoeGar
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Tipping by percent of meal cost is absurd. If ya order the $25 steak, instead of the $6 appetizer, that entitles the waiter $4.50 instead of $.90? You should tip on service period. Not on the food quality. Most restaurants don't split the tips with the kitchen grunts. I feel for the waitresses at greasy spoons who bust their humps, and an order for four comes in at $20, and they get $3 or 15%. Somebody at an expensive restaurant, who is only passably attentive, gets a $20 tip on a $130 bill just because the food is more expensive?

We have to remember what exactly we are tipping. I encourage everybody to tip the service. Even if the food is cheap, if you got served well, tip well. If ya get served crappy at an expensive place, why should that waiter get 5 times the amount of tip as the worker at the cheaper place?

44 posted on 07/11/2003 4:11:42 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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Lynn suggests that the American restaurant industry begin a campaign to inform people about the basics of leaving a tip.

What do you want to bet that "the basics" doesn't include the notion that you don't have to leave a tip if the service is crappy?

53 posted on 07/11/2003 4:14:24 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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Best tippers? waitresses & cabdrivers

Worst tippers? doctors

59 posted on 07/11/2003 4:16:05 PM PDT by jobim
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My standard is to tip 15 to 20% depending on service. If it is a holiday like Thanksgiving then 35%.
61 posted on 07/11/2003 4:16:24 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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