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The Tipping Divide: Study Finds Differences in Tips by Black, White Restaurant Patrons
National Public Radio ^ | 7/11/2003 | National Public Radio

Posted on 07/11/2003 3:48:00 PM PDT by 07055

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1 posted on 07/11/2003 3:48:01 PM PDT by 07055
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To: 07055
My wife worked as a waitress for 4 years back in our college days. She said this very same thing for years. Everyone called her a racist for saying so.
2 posted on 07/11/2003 3:52:56 PM PDT by F. dAnconia (We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
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Lynn suggests that the American restaurant industry begin a campaign to inform people about the basics of leaving a tip. He urges the use of advertisements, educational pamphlets, and even putting tipping information on menus. And Lynn suggests that restaurants could introduce a game in which dining parties would have to tip at least 15 percent in order to be eligible to win a contest.

Ooo, wait, I have a better idea... waiters should stop assuming they are entitled to a 15-20% tip and remember that patrons aren't legally required to leave them a bloody dime! How's that?!

3 posted on 07/11/2003 3:54:14 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I'm an Ann Coulter soul trapped in a Janeane Garofalo body.)
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4 posted on 07/11/2003 3:54:25 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: 07055
We need white taxpayers to subsidize black peoples' tips so they match those of white people. Black people were slaves in America, after all. </Jesse>
5 posted on 07/11/2003 3:54:49 PM PDT by 7DayRepo
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To: F. dAnconia
Anyone who has experience in waiting tables will confirm this.

Even black waiters get the shaft from black patrons.
6 posted on 07/11/2003 3:54:55 PM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: 07055
Who had the nerve to come up with this tipping scam in the first place? These restaurants want me to patronize their business and pay their workers!(and yes, I tip generously, I just think these businesses should pay their own dang workers)
7 posted on 07/11/2003 3:55:03 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Guillermo
Maybe Bill and Hillary Clinton are the first black Co-Presidents.
8 posted on 07/11/2003 3:56:26 PM PDT by Lauratealeaf
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To: mhking
Ping to the black conservative list.

And please explain this line to me...
>>institutionalized racism that exists in the restaurant industry<<
9 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:00 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: 07055
Its all in keeping with affirmative action. Whites should be made to tip more than blacks given white privilege. The new tips rules are as follows:

Whites - 20%
Asians - 20%
Blacks - 10%
Hispanics - 10%
Indians - 5% - hey they were here first
10 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:11 PM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: F. dAnconia
The best way I ever found to tip was to estimate what you will spend and put 20% of that on the table.
When the wait staff comes over you tell them that is their tip. Anytime you have to look for them to get something, 1% of the money goes back in your pocket.
Normally they are not offended and you do get them to stop by your table more than others asking if everything is all right.
11 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:40 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: 07055
Way backwhen, I hated waiting on blacks and hispanics. They griped about everything, didn't make themselves clear about their gripes and made me,a little white girl cry.
12 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:41 PM PDT by annyokie (Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
That's how they do it in Europe. "Service charges" are included in the price, or sometimes there will be a "cover fee" just to sit down in a restaurant.

I guess American restaraunt owners figure that they'd get better waiters if there was an incentive to hustle.
13 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:46 PM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
Interesting. See #5.
14 posted on 07/11/2003 3:57:51 PM PDT by 7DayRepo
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To: A_perfect_lady
I worked as a waiter for 5 years... my $2.13 hourly wage wasn't really enough to get me by... so yeah... you are not "required by law" but no tips = no money for the server... And a lot of people do have your mentality, weather the service was good or poor...
15 posted on 07/11/2003 3:58:00 PM PDT by Nouge
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To: 07055
blacks interviewed in one of Lynn's studies rated the service slightly higher yet still tipped less than whites

blacks have avoided sit-down restaurants in favor of take out or self-service eateries -- institutionalized racism that exists in the restaurant industry and education about tipping are all behind the discrepancy.

The second bit contradicts the first.

So which is more disturbing: That someone bothered to say all that stuff that completely disregards the numbers, or that someone bothered reporting it as if it's relevant?

16 posted on 07/11/2003 3:58:01 PM PDT by irv
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To: 07055
I've heard old people are the worst. They're picky and demanding and tip lousy.
17 posted on 07/11/2003 3:58:07 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: 07055
From someone who's done it - the big difference in tipping isn't black/white - it's men/women. And everyone who's ever waited a table knows it.
18 posted on 07/11/2003 3:59:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: A_perfect_lady
Many restaurant patrons grunting at the trough should themselves realize that apart from tips, waiters & waitresses are pulling in $2 or $3 per hour at most - yet their earnings are taxed at minimum wage on the assumption that thankless patrons are leaving 15% tips (which ain't necessarily so).
19 posted on 07/11/2003 3:59:41 PM PDT by PresbyRev
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To: 7DayRepo
The CEO of Denny's should go on record apologizing for all the bad tips to blacks thru the years, and all restaurants be forced to pay reparations to every black that ever worked as a waiter/waitress, and their descendants...
20 posted on 07/11/2003 3:59:49 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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