[af_vet_rr]

Agreed, always "trust but verify". He may not lie, but he's had various officials under him do some shady things, and in the end, he is responsible for their conduct.

[JohnGalt]

He is responsible, of course, but the last time a sitting President challenged the influence of the foreign policy establishment was what, 40 years ago? And how did that story end?

I will settle for Rummy and Powell 'resigning to spend more time with their families.'

The job of President in this day and age is simply too big, so I sympathize with Bush being misled by his underlings. In the same breath I respect your position to with hold support on a noble principal.