[Truthsayer20]

"Most Old Right libertarians of the Rothbard, Austrian school, Southern Jeffersonian liberal.. are closed borders, pro-life, state rightists, and have little in common with the left-libertarians who support interventions abroad and a strong central state to over-ride local laws (the Texas sodomy ruling two weeks ago was an excellent example of the split.)"

So in other words they are libertarian only when it comes to the federal government? How can a philosophical libertarian support non-libertarian local laws? Would Rothbard have supported the Texas sodomy laws? I hate it when people hide behind convenient ideological facades to push an agenda which actually has very little to do with the principles the proclaim. And this is true also for many folks on the neo-conservative side.

[JohnGalt]

What is this 'libertarian' you speak of?

Rightwing Libertarianism is a political philosophy on self-government; leftwing libertarianism is an ideology based on abstract rights. There is broad spectrum of debate, far wider than the facade of Party A taxes us as 47%, Party B taxes us at 49%.

Rightwing libertarians believe in local cultures and don't believe in using the power of coercion to change how local cultural behave, even if they are acting 'silly' (Clarence Thomas's words).