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Carb Scare Tactics
About Diabetes.com ^ | July 08, 2003 | Paula Ford-Martin

Posted on 07/09/2003 5:02:46 PM PDT by Nov3

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Here is the Diabetes establishment response to the US News article I posted earlier. They can't admit the obvious, a high sugar diet is not good for a diabetic. A high sugar diet can cause adult onset. That is obvious to the casual observer. However the spate of diabetes we have been seeing is not all diet IMO. I believe there is an autoimmune cause for a number of people.

At least they are backing off of the fact a diabetic can eat raw sugar.

They will let people die to avoid admitting they are wrong.

1 posted on 07/09/2003 5:02:46 PM PDT by Nov3
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2 posted on 07/09/2003 5:05:04 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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What about all the people meeting success on the Atkins diet? If at the very least you told a dieter to eliminate sugar, white flour, and white rice a person's health would improve.

I see huge numbers of people making dieting gains with carbohydrate control. I have not heard of any that have harmed their health.

3 posted on 07/09/2003 5:08:44 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nov3
Donning my tinfoil hat I went to the website listed and noticed there's a lot of articles on there about products you can buy. If they told you how to quickly become a non-diabetic they wouldn't be able to push it on you.
4 posted on 07/09/2003 5:10:21 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Nachum
bttt
5 posted on 07/09/2003 5:17:15 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Nachum
Keep your voice down,large scale Atkin's conversions will be death to the american processed food industry(basically the entire supermarket product line).We paid alot for that new food pyramid and we've got a sell alot of corn syrup to make that investment pay off. ssssHHHHH.
6 posted on 07/09/2003 5:18:18 PM PDT by foto
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To: Nachum
I see huge numbers of people making dieting gains with carbohydrate control. I have not heard of any that have harmed their health.

Well put.... I've been doing a low-fat diet (as recommended) for years; without any success. I'd lose the weight, then gain it right back. However, the Atkin's diet has been the best, and most successful diet I have found .... and it makes sense. Perhaps thats why it is so despised by the AMA, a cardiologist figured out what nutritionists have been preaching against for decades.

7 posted on 07/09/2003 5:23:27 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Nachum
I have been on Protein Power / Atkins for seven years now. Thank God for it.
8 posted on 07/09/2003 5:25:06 PM PDT by Nov3
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To: Nov3; sinkspur
A$$hole$.

It's obvious to anyone with the most basic understanding of nutrition that sugars and carbs have a direct and sometimes severe impact on blood sugar levels as well as being much more easily turned into fat than proteins and fat itself.

Let me hear any healthcare professional state otherwise here, so we can get your lies out in the open and uncover your intellectual dishonesty.

Ill intended agendas are bad enough, but it's unforgivable when it comes from those who are supposed to be concerned with the lives and health of others.

I'm wondering when they're going to give up the ghost and stop spouting this HORSE$**T.

9 posted on 07/09/2003 5:26:11 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Nachum
It's now getting to the point where it's not funny anymore, and it's not a matter of opinion. God, there really are people who would physically hurt others for selfish gain.
10 posted on 07/09/2003 5:29:38 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: foto
You gopt that right, foto!

i was on the verge of type 2 D... and went on the Atkins diet to get my hypothyriod weight gain under control, and found that the chol levels went down by 100 points, my blood sugar levels plumetted, hdl went up, ldl went down, and triglycerides also dropped to normal levels...

Who woulda thunk it? I was doing the vegetarain thingie before to try to get a handle on my thyroid problem. But, it just didn't work. i bought the philsophy, but my dumb body just didn't get with the program, you know?

Now, I eat meat, eggs, healthy fats, nutsand good cheese, grow my own above grown veggies for salad, etc... can't wait till the brandywines ripen!!!

Feel better than ever, and enjoy low carb white wine, but should be more moderate at that than I am... Have lost 80 lbs. gained on vegetarian diet, but can't really blame that, prolly was the failing thyroid... anyway, the veggie diet made it worse, not better.

Atkins approach was the only way to stop the spiral.

Thanks, Dr. Atkins. Rest in peace...
11 posted on 07/09/2003 5:30:04 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: AAABEST
I'm wondering when they're going to give up the ghost and stop spouting this HORSE$**T.

There is a huge amount of EGO involved here. People have to die so these morons can be right.

12 posted on 07/09/2003 5:31:13 PM PDT by Nov3
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To: jacquej
That is quite a testimony. Congratulations
13 posted on 07/09/2003 5:36:38 PM PDT by Nov3
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To: Nov3
Well, to be fair... Atkins didn't do much for my ability to type or proofread... but, let's blame the low carb Chablis for that,.
14 posted on 07/09/2003 5:41:42 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Nov3
It's beyond disgusting. A year ago it would have been halfway debatable with a mental midget. At this point it's downright criminal to continue this charade.

I'm even a little angry with myself for not realizing much earlier in life that carbs and sugars are so easily turned into glucose and fat.

I'm not a brain surgeon by any means, but this is such a simple concept. Everything has to be broken down to a calorie before it's utilized by the body and put into the blood or stored as fat. Sugars and carbs are much more easily utilized this way than fat.

I have 4 bunless cheeseburgers waiting as we speak!

15 posted on 07/09/2003 5:42:53 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: jacquej
Wow, a great story.
16 posted on 07/09/2003 5:51:23 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: AAABEST
Yes, I find it amazing that doctors recommend hi carb diets to people diagnosed with diabetes. Just plain stupidity. When they were trained they were told it was so, so now they preach it like a religion regardless of the evidence.
17 posted on 07/09/2003 5:55:14 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Nachum
No kidding about the white flour and refined sugar, in particular. Severely limiting those two would've probably saved me from upcoming gall bladder surgery :(
18 posted on 07/09/2003 5:57:27 PM PDT by CarmelValleyite
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To: Nov3
Many years ago I had to search far and wide to find an MD who would even DO the blood sugar panel for me. They all said it was a fad, didn't exist, blah blah blah. That was back when Adele Davis was writing about low blood sugar.

I did the test, and then went in for him to explain the seven hour panel to me. Before he could, I said, don't show me the panel, I'll DRAW it for you. I drew the curve precisely the way it looked on his expensive panel. When he asked how I did it, I told him because I could FEEL it going up and down. What a maroon. And he STILL didn't believe it.
19 posted on 07/09/2003 6:02:07 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( "Aspire to mediocracy"................new motto for publik skools.............)
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To: jacquej
but, let's blame the low carb Chablis for that,.

If you'd graduate up to chardonnay, or develop a taste for red wines, you'd have less sugar in your wine.

I'm a wine nut, and I am absolutely convinced that red wine is better for your metabolism than white.

Plus, you'll drink less of a good cabernet sauvignon or a zinfandel or a chardonnay than a chablis or chenin blanc.

20 posted on 07/09/2003 6:05:05 PM PDT by sinkspur
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