Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]

2,581 posted on 07/14/2003 9:26:36 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

Lose to what? Your endless babble and mockery? Your pathetic attempts to link Darwin with leftist ideology and Creationism with right-wing/conservative/liberty?

You're a joke, and frankly the only people who take you seriously are those who must support their ideological allies over quality debaters, or risk shunning or whatever it is your kind does.

Why not end your presence on these threads and make room for people like Alamo-Girl or others who will debate with respect and intelligence? Or better yet, end your presence on this earth.

2,582 posted on 07/14/2003 9:27:08 PM PDT by Skywalk

ahh another fan

or are you just a groupie?

2,583 posted on 07/14/2003 9:28:47 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

"Or better yet, end your presence on this earth."

nah, you're definitely a FANatic.

but you'll have to get in line..

2,584 posted on 07/14/2003 9:30:24 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

Hitler and gang were "only human" too, eh?

Hitler was virulently racist even in the historical context of his own time. The same is not true of Darwin. Darwin was at best mildly racist (it's difficult in many cases to seperate what racism there is from Darwin's Victorian/English/Christian-Civilization cultural chauvanism) but he was certainly less so than the average Victorian. He was notably less racist, for instance, than Abraham Lincoln (who in turn was less racist than average for his time).

2,585 posted on 07/14/2003 9:33:51 PM PDT by Stultis

"Indeed his ability to identify, and then carefully think through, the possible objections to his theory can only be described as amazing."

The guy took 20 years in writing the origins and another ten writing the Descent. You bet he had plenty of time to think about what he was saying.

2,586 posted on 07/14/2003 9:34:07 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)

OHH, did the Wittle Hypocrite actually post to me?

Don't bother, I ignore hypocrites just as I ignore Trollers.

Wow, and you happen to fit both descriptions, just have to ignore you twice as much I guess!!

Buh Bye hypocrite....

2,587 posted on 07/14/2003 9:35:52 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)

The fact that he wasn't an American seems to have Completely slipped your mind now didn't it?

The fact that England had been opposed to slavery since the beginning of the century seems to escape you! Besides to which, great men transcend their environment, evil men, use the evil around them to further their agenda.

2,588 posted on 07/14/2003 9:37:08 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)

I take it you believe the National Review is "soooooooooo over the top" too?

???

!!!

!?!?!?

If there is a connection between National Review and the Progressive Sociology Network, I am certainly unaware of it.

2,589 posted on 07/14/2003 9:37:25 PM PDT by Stultis

EVOCRITE noun [U]
when someone pretends to believe something that they do not really believe or that is the opposite of what they do or say at another time.

which you do daily

2,590 posted on 07/14/2003 9:38:14 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

"Darwin was at best mildly racist"

OH OK

guess he was an OK guy then.

you two can go back to hugging now

2,591 posted on 07/14/2003 9:38:54 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

You're right, I'm a groupie, a fanatic, whatever.

The reason I added that harsh bit is you just strike me as an incredibly unpleasant person. You're also quite vicious even when people are attempting to be respectful. I had my dealings with you some time ago, and all you offered was insults(cleverly disguised as 'humor.')

So when confronted with terrible people I usually say something harsh to convey my disgust. But I DO really want you to end your presence on these threads.

2,592 posted on 07/14/2003 9:38:56 PM PDT by Skywalk

"the Progressive Sociology Network, I am certainly unaware of it."

this would be a surprise

2,593 posted on 07/14/2003 9:39:39 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

is it harsh to wish another dead?

2,594 posted on 07/14/2003 9:40:07 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

Regarding your alledged "contradiction" in #2283, here is the explanation from Faussets' Bible dictionary, just in case you really are interested:

GENEALOGY OF JESUS CHRIST

Though you probably won't believe me yes I am interested, But I am going to disagree.

There is a contradiction in the generations from David to they were carried away to Babylon in what listed in Mathew 1:6-11 and the 1st Chronicles 3:11-12, 15-16. Mathew has 14 generations while there is 18 in Chronicles.

As to Jeremiah (Jer 22:30) declaring Jeconiah, Coniah, or Jehoiachin was to be childless.

Jer: 22:30

Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.

In Matthew 1:12 quote "Jeconiah begat Shealtiel.". I think it's pretty clear what "Begat" meant

But here is where it gets crazy because along with it being different than Matthew that is also contradicted in the 1st Chronicles because clearly Jeconiah had kids

3:17

And the sons of Jeconiah; Assir, Salathiel his son,

3:18

Malchiram also, and Pedaiah, and Shenazar, Jecamiah, Hoshama, and Nedabiah.

Adding to the madness, Zerbubbabel according to 1st C. wasn't Salathiel's son at all but instead was the son of Pedaiah.

3:19

And the sons of Pedaiah were, Zerubbabel, and Shimei: and the sons of Zerubbabel; Meshullam, and Hananiah, and Shelomith their sister:

But as we know that is contradicted in the genealogy of Jesus in both Matthew and Luke

And in Erza 3:2

Then stood up Jeshua the son of Jozadak, and his brethren the priests, and Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel and his brethren, and builded the altar of the God of Israel, to offer burnt offerings

OK, I can go on and on but I won't.

The Obvious answer to why the Genealogy of Jesus is different in the two books is not that the books were passed down from God but because both Matthew and Luke wrote their respective books independently of each other many years after (~70 years I believe) the passing of Jesus and at the time they just couldn't go down to the local bookstore and pick up a complete copy of the Old Testament so when trying to link Jesus to David it is apparent they didn't always use the same text, Hence the mix ups.

I think this is the time to listen to Timothy (1:3) and Titus(3:9) and avoid Genealogies.

2,595 posted on 07/14/2003 9:41:40 PM PDT by qam1

Seems to me that at the same time that Darwin was spewing his racist rants in the US

??? (Need to make some boiler plate for this it seems)

Darwin never visited the United States, but he was VERY strongly opposed to slavery and VERY much in favor of the war against the Confederacy for this reason (at a time when many an Englishman favored the Confederacy). Check out his correspondence during the war with the American Botanist Asa Gray.

2,596 posted on 07/14/2003 9:41:42 PM PDT by Stultis

Yeah, whatever you do, do not read his words like Hitler, Marx & company did. That would just muck up the statue.

2,597 posted on 07/14/2003 9:43:49 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

Oh you mistake my sentiment. I don't wish any cosmic harm to come to you, other than perhaps a stubbed toe.

What I asked for is that YOU remove yourself. Completely different, my friend.

2,598 posted on 07/14/2003 9:44:10 PM PDT by Skywalk

I just love how G3K does that, he wants to think something, so he assumes that it's true, and then nothing you can give him, facts, evidence etc that refute his assumption go out of his brain like water off a duck.

It would be rather amusing if it didn't have the telltale signs of a mental illness.

2,599 posted on 07/14/2003 9:44:45 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)

YOU said:
"Or better yet, end your presence on this earth."

well? is that harsh or OK when an evo says it?

hmmm?

I just love hearing evo-justifications.

2,600 posted on 07/14/2003 9:45:32 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)

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