Biology textbook hearings prompt science disputes [Texas]

Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 08 July 2003 | MATT FRAZIER

[NewLand]

I see, so if I do NOT take genesis literally, then I am going to hell

Where did I say that? Stop putting YOUR words into my statements.

even if I am a christian otherwise

Maybe I need to understand your definition of being a Christian.

you guys are just too funny sometimes...

Thank you.

[Aric2000]

Well, you see goodseed, we start off with 2 different mindsets.

You are in a religious mindset, and believe that evolution is religion as well.

We on the other hand have it on GOOD scientific authority, that evolution is INDEED science, not because WE say it is, but because 10'S of thousands of scientists say it is.

The ONLY people that CLAIM that evolution is some kind of religious doctrine are fundamentalists, that's it, THAT'S ALL.

So as long as you continue to be closeminded to the fact that evolution is SCIENCE and NOT religion, then we will NEVER agree.

[f.Christian]

As we said as a child ... time to blow (( up )) this evo pop stand -- beanery too !

[Aric2000]

That is EXACTLY what you said.

If you understand evolution, then you are going to hell, ergo, if you understand evolution, then you do NOT take genesis literally. therefore, ergo, if you do NOT take genesis literally, then you will go to hell.

That is the logical conclusion of what you said.

It is what you are saying, whether you care to admit it or not.

[NewLand]

Once more, nowhere in the Bible does it say, "Believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis, or you are doomed to Hell."

Once more, where did I say that? Stop putting YOUR words into my statements.

If you don't have evidence to support your "theory"

Evidence arrived here 2003 years ago...you just refuse to accept that. I cannot change your heart. Only you can.

[RightWhale]

>>raison d?être<< Anybody else see a question mark?

That would be the . . . uh . . . interfragetory proclitic mode, not available in English.

[f.Christian]

Selling your schlock for the atlantis three ring spinning circus - mirage ...

nobodies buying your clown anticks now ---

diehards for darwin !

grifters ...

oops you were left behind ---

the train station is empty !

[NewLand]

It's amazing that you can interpret my words, my mind, my heart. It's not amazing that you are wrong.

I think after 40+ years of life and 4+ years here on FR, anyone can plainly see that I state exactly what I mean to say on any topic.

I have no need to use a word like ergo...

[f.Christian]

If you blapheme the Creator // creation with evo - ego lies for sure you're going to hell ... how could that be a surprise !

[donh]

If a younger fossil were found UNDER an older fossil in the same location and strata, it would disprove evolution in a heartbeat,

Careful loadin' up the ammo here. Fossils do occasionally occur out of sequence, and strata do occasionally get folded up sideways and upside down as mountains form. The fossil & geological column correlations are impressive evidence, and worthy of touting, but they are statistically preponderant evidence, and it is worthwhile keeping that in mind when arguing with creationists.

[f.Christian]

Evolution is the mooneyfication of America ...ideology zombies - FREAKS !

[donh]

raison d?être

What does eatin' raisons gots to do with evolution?

[NewLand]

Maybe I need to understand your definition of being a Christian.

You sure are good at firing off accusations and putting your words in other people's mouth...but not very good at answering direct questions.

[RightWhale]

how come we find modern fossils under the so called "older ones".

You need to rephrase this somehow, because there isn't a problem with this.

[f.Christian]

fC ...

Can ' science ' supercede theology ?

ll ..

No; nor can theology supersede science.

fC ...

Which should explain the other ?

ll ..

Two separate fields, each with its own role.

fC ...

Do you think they are a hopeless garbled mess and you should keep shooting from the hip ?

ll ..

Where do you see me "shooting from the hip"?

fC ...

# 1 ... theology (( truth )) can trump false science !

# 2 ... Isn't that the definition of schizophrenia * --- two opposite competing ' unintegrated ' entities in the same body ?

# 3 ... Shooting from the hip --- mindless unexplained contradictory --- see # 2 above !


... * ... notice something (( seek help )) ?

[f.Christian]

I am trying to do a right wing entry level ' half way ' house for the republican party ...

realatarians ---

nothing is free except liberal // evos association with reality (( responsibility )) !

realatarians2 ... designeduniverse.com (( unfolding )) !

[NewLand]

back later tonight

[f.Christian]

REPENT ... the end is near !

[Aric2000]

Junior is a catholic, and therefore a christian.

You DO realize that, do you not?

Oh, that's right, if a person is not YOUR kind of christian then they aren't a christian, is that it?

[CobaltBlue]

A good question. An even better question is "what does evolution have to do with religion"?

Seems like two or three things set the fundamentalists off back circa 1900 - wide acceptance of evolution and German "higher" biblical criticism being the most often listed.

I wasn't aware that analytical biblical criticism was started in Germany but it makes sense, given that the Germans pioneered philological studies of other ancient texts, e.g., the Iliad, the Odyssey.

I would have thought that any Christian would have been excited by using linguistics and philology to analyze the Bible.

Maybe what bothered them is that to really be a Biblical scholar, you have to learn a lot of old languages and study someplace more challenging than Joe's Bible Study?