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Senate Kills Malpractice Limit Proposal; Democrats used a procedural vote to kill the bill
Reuters ^ | 07-09-03

Posted on 07/09/2003 11:21:30 AM PDT by Brian S

Wed July 9, 2003 12:10 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Democrats on Wednesday killed a proposal to limit pain and suffering awards in medical malpractice lawsuits, an idea strongly backed by many U.S. physicians who say high malpractice insurance costs are driving them out of business.

Democrats used a procedural vote to kill the bill, championed by President Bush and approved by the House earlier this year. The Democrats said arbitrary $250,000 caps on pain and suffering might help insurers and drug makers but would not necessarily do much to help doctors or patients.

The bill would not have limited awards for economic damages, such as lost wages or medical costs. However, it would have put a $250,000 cap on awards for pain and suffering and also would have curtailed punitive damages.

Although Senate Republican leaders put the bill aside for now, it is possible that lawmakers will try to work out a compromise or alternative solution in the coming months.

However, some champions of the defeated bill said they would take it to the voters. Pennsylvania Republican Rick Santorum told reporters this week that Republicans pressed ahead with the vote knowing they would lose "so we can turn the heat up back home on senators who are not being responsive to the problems in their own states."

Both the House and Senate have voted on similar legislation over the years but the issue has taken on more political potency in recent months amid unusual protests and work stoppages by doctors in several states.

The influential American Medical Association has made the bill it a top priority.

Backers of the legislation say big jury awards and frivolous lawsuits are causing such steep increases in malpractice premiums that some doctors, particularly in high risk specialties like obstetrics and emergency medicine, are literally shutting their practices.

"This is about access to care," said Nevada Republican Sen. John Ensign, a lead sponsor of the bill.


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To: AD from SpringBay
Would you please explain to me what the hell that means??????????????????????
21 posted on 07/09/2003 1:20:13 PM PDT by cksharks
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To: Brian S
Doctors should refuse services to all known Democrats, lawyers, insurance moguls and liberal politicians -- that'll show 'em!
22 posted on 07/09/2003 1:21:39 PM PDT by TexasRepublic
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To: Katie_Colic
Did you lose an eye?
23 posted on 07/09/2003 1:22:15 PM PDT by cksharks
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To: cksharks
Just being ironic.
24 posted on 07/09/2003 2:21:31 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay
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To: AD from SpringBay
Thanks for the reply I just could not figure what you were refering too. Having a one vote majority with 8 idiots like mccain and jefferies on your side does not make for much of a majority.
25 posted on 07/09/2003 2:44:07 PM PDT by cksharks
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To: CholeraJoe
Mark Racicot and the RNC should beat every dem senator with this over and over.

And also *cough* Lindsey Graham *cough* and *cough* Richard Shelby *cough*.
Roll Call Vote #264

26 posted on 07/09/2003 2:58:30 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (LNJWGRANP)
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To: Katie_Colic
What are these losers filing lawsuits crying about. They should just suck up a lost eye or a loved one. It might affect the doctors lifestyle!

Well, no. Nobody is saying that people shouldn't be able to sue, or even that they shouldn't be allowed to collect actual, tangible damages and costs, just that vague, ephemeral "pain and suffering" should be limited to a quarter of a million dollars or so.

As you probably know, malpractice cases are taken on contigency bases, which means that if the plaintiff wins (either by a jury trial or an out-of-court settlement), the lawyer grabs 30-40% -- plus "expenses" -- of the award.

And as you're probably also aware, plaintiffs' lawyers don't take on cases based purely on the merits of the case, but on whether or not they believe they can win -- and win enough to make it worth the gamble of working on a contingency basis.

So, yes, poor, older people with few financial prospects in their futures generally *do* have to suck up their losses, so as not to affect the lawyers' lifestyles!

27 posted on 07/09/2003 3:05:31 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (LNJWGRANP)
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To: Katie_Colic
The doctors and the insurance companies are not hurting either. It is you and me that gets the shaft. The reason the rates are skyrocketing is bad investments on the insurance companies part. They blew it by moving into bad equities in the late 90's. You and I are going to pay for it coming and going.

Of course that explains the medical malpractice crisis we had in NY back in the mid-80s...

28 posted on 07/09/2003 3:07:34 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (LNJWGRANP)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
My daughter and son-in-law are both doctors with PhDs. My daughter's specialty is internal medicine. My son-in-law is an orthopedic surgeon. My daughter finished her residency two years ago. She is now an Assistant Professor of Medicine at Johns Hopkins where she also works in the clinic. There are evenings when she only gets home at between 9:30 and 10:00 PM. She also is engaged in research.

My son finished his 5 year residency in surgery, and followed it up with a one year fellowship at Johns Hopkins. Only last year did he join a private practice. He is 39 years old with huge loans to pay off. My daughter is 34 years old. Malpractice insurance is very high!!! All doctors do are not on easy street.
29 posted on 07/09/2003 3:25:29 PM PDT by matchgirl
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To: cksharks
No my husband did. The doctor saved some money on the operating staffs training. My husband paid for it.
30 posted on 07/09/2003 6:56:35 PM PDT by Katie_Colic
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Well, no. Nobody is saying that people shouldn't be able to sue, or even that they shouldn't be allowed to collect actual, tangible damages and costs, just that vague, ephemeral "pain and suffering" should be limited to a quarter of a million dollars or so.

So your husband or child is paralyzed by gross negligence. How far is that 250,000 pain and suffering going toward your loss? How about if you are left in pain for the rest of your life and you can't do any of the things you used to do, like sex etcetera. 250k cover that pain and suffering? I mean they paid you for the lost wages right? In other countries like Germany people can be jailed for extreme negligence. Not here. They walk away from it. Some doctors need to be sued out of existence.

There is no doubt there are problems and excesses with the legal system but this is not the way to fix it. An educated jury would be a start.

And yes insurance rates escalate during bad periods in the stock market. Even more so this time because a lot of investors didn't know what bonds were. Actuarial tables do not apply to their profits.

31 posted on 07/09/2003 7:12:20 PM PDT by Katie_Colic
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