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To: archy; wideminded
"There should be dozens of radio intercept tapes available...."

"Within an hour of learning that the Liberty had been torpedoed the Director, NSA, LTG Marshall S. Carter, USA, sent a message to all intercept sites requesting a special search of all communications that might reflect the attack or reaction. No communications were available. However, one of the airborne platforms, a U.S. Navy EC-121, had collected voice conversations between two Israeli helicopter pilots and the control tower at Hazor Airfield following the attack on the Liberty."

http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/liberty.html

The NSA lied under Johnson and now thery are lying under Bush?

You guys are so vested in your beliefs that if Jesus returned to tell you it was a mistake, you wouldn't believe the lying Jew.


339 posted on 07/09/2003 5:32:21 PM PDT by Courier (Quick: Name one good thing about the Saudis.)
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To: Courier
You guys are so vested in your beliefs that if Jesus returned to tell you it was a mistake, you wouldn't believe the lying Jew.

Probabably not. Sorry, buddy, no speaka da Aramaic....

341 posted on 07/09/2003 5:40:40 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Courier
http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/liberty.html

Thanks for the link. I downloaded and read all the NSA material. Contrary to the statement that is being trumpeted that this proves that the attack was a mistake, the tapes clearly prove somewhat less than that.

The tapes indicate that the pilots in the "rescue" helicopters indeed probably had no initial knowledge that the ship was American. The controller at Hatzor appears to have had some initial suspicion that the ship was American because he repeatedly stresses the need to discover the nationality of the survivors and offers the possibility that they may speak English.

The tapes offer us absolutely no information about what the attackers or their commanders believed concerning the nationality of the ship.

The helicopters witnessed deflated lifeboats in the water near the ship. This either corroborates the survivors accounts saying that the lifeboats were machine-gunned or it means that the lifeboats were tossed overboard without being inflated. Someone here with Navy experience probably knows the SOP for lifeboats.

I'll refrain from quoting your statement that implies I am guilty of anti-Semitism. I think these type of statements also detract from Cristol's arguments. Some of the survivors were Jewish. It would be interesting to know what they think about this incident.

376 posted on 07/11/2003 10:05:11 PM PDT by wideminded
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