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God...not G-d
Posted on 07/07/2003 3:50:21 AM PDT by grumple
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To: Catspaw
Oops, you beat me to it.
To: hellinahandcart
I concur.
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:38:05 AM PDT
by
G-dzilla
Comment #23 Removed by Moderator
To: drlevy88
if Muslims have a similar scruple about the Arabic for "Allah." They sure don't seem to have any problem with spelling their deity's name out in English. Actually, they do. The arabic rendering of the name is considered extremely sacred to them. The entire koran is considered transcribed so very directly that the ink and the curlicues are special.
This contrasts with Christianity which generally holds the view that the original manuscripts were "God-breathed" and therefore inspired. Most of us think that while the Book should be respected, the paper and ink themselves aren't any more holy that any other paper and ink.
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:41:24 AM PDT
by
Jemian
(Yes, it goes on and on, my friend.)
To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Isn't the practice one of leaving out vowels, in order to not spell the name out completely?
Seems to me I remember that JHVH is the accepted way for denoting the word "Jehovah" in Hebrew.
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:41:34 AM PDT
by
dawn53
To: grumple
I can fully respect and appreciate that some devout Jews choose to spell out God as "G-d", but I do not agree with it. It is pure legalism to do so. Joe Lieberman bragged on the Senate floor how he sits in the dark on the Sabbath, and will not even answer the phone or switch on an appliance because he wants to be prove his faith. After that, he turns around Monday morning and votes in favor of a ban on Partial Birth Abortion.
Gee, thanks "Holy Joe"--you're a real inspiration. However, I understand their desire to do so, and to respect the name of Yahweh.
The ancient Pharisees and Sadducees atomized God's law, to the point where Yeshua of Nazareth warned them of "straining at a gnat, but swallowing a camel." In the New Testament, Christians were encouraged to refer to the Lord as "Abba" (GALATIANS 4:6), which is almost akin to "Daddy." Further, this highlights the differences in the beliefs of modern Judaism and Christianity--that because of the sacrifice of the Messiah, we have the gift and right to be called the "children of God." Consider this from Luke 23:44-
"It was now about the sixth hour, and darkness came over all the land until the ninth hour, for the sun stopped shining. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two."
That curtain seperated the Holy of Holies in the temple where God Himself dwelled with the rest of the holy temple. Read in the Old Testament what happened to those of went in there without permission? It wasn't something to be fooled with. Why was it torn completely at the very moment Chrst died? I believe is was symbolic of the fact that the separation between man and God had been removed because of the sacrifice of Christ...and God the Father wanted to make it known. Can you imagine what the keepers of the temple thought when that curtain was split?
The separation we have with God is healed through Christ, but I still cringe when I hear people get too Pal-sy Wal-sy with the Almighty. They can make the relationship with God sound frivolous "My buddy pal the Big JC told me!" Show a little respect for the Creator and King of the Universe. He is God after all, you know.
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:46:05 AM PDT
by
SkyPilot
To: solitas
Do you not think that if fully spelling-out "God" really pissed Him off that He would've lightning-struck somebody for it by now?hmmmmm.....
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:49:55 AM PDT
by
Cachelot
(~ In waters near you ~)
To: Ronly Bonly Jones
I totally agree that devout christians should show more respect for the name of G-d. Do you have any links to guidelines that we uninformed might read? I feel somewhat guilty whenever I use the name in emails or other casual communications.
I also believe that the Third commandment was meant to refer to ANY use of the name of G-d, especially the reference to one's own self as a believer.
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:52:19 AM PDT
by
whipitgood
(are you ready to act?)
To: grumple
The question shouldn't be "How could God let this happen?" but "How could He not?"
How can you expect a God to create beings with free will, then expect Him to intervene every time those beings make bad decisions?
Secondly, why is it every time there's a disaster, either natural or man-made, someone cries out that God has abandoned us? Yet when times are great, nobody is standing on streetcorners praising God for all the bounty He has bestowed. God gets all the criticism, but none of the gratitude. If we're going to blame Him, then we have to credit Him too.
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:52:20 AM PDT
by
IronJack
To: freesia2; Catspaw
Typing "G-d" looks to me more like it is a dirty word someone is trying to sneak past a language filter. I'd say disrespect for respect-worthy things has been clearly shown on this thread. CP and others are being more reasonable in their usage that those who deprecate others propagating respect for God's Word. It's a time-honored activity spanning millenia, not a typo to be compared to vulgarity, and for which the author's presumed intentions should be impugned. (Shame!)
OTOH, as Christians we believe we have been shown a better way; we should not be browbeaten by those who would that we not use the Lord's name when He's made it clear that it's use is available to us and encouraged as we "in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ" (ICor 1:2) and "ask anything in My name" (Jn 14:14, 16:23). It's one glorious and powerful name, not an abbreviation built by those who put fences around everything that was sacred!
Man was not made for the Name.
HF
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posted on
07/07/2003 4:57:32 AM PDT
by
holden
To: grumple
bump
To: grumple
"Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they WILL think of you for sending it."People that forward anything that comes across their e-mail, from ramblings about God and Jesus to those tired old (insert famous politician's name here) jokes, are idiots to begin with.
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:01:21 AM PDT
by
Hatteras
(The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
To: holden; freesia2; Catspaw
Romans 14:5
To: IronJack
How can you expect a God to create beings with free will, then expect Him to intervene every time those beings make bad decisions?...God gets all the criticism, but none of the gratitude. If we're going to blame Him, then we have to credit Him too.Excellent points!
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:16:16 AM PDT
by
Amelia
(It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness)
To: catonsville
Christians and Jews believe that G-d's name should not be taken in vain or be dishonored. I wish more of us lived up to that.So, by altering the spelling of God in written form is showing honor. Would one then show the same honor when speaking the word by saying "Gee (G) dash (-) dee (d)" as in "Oh my Gee dash dee" ?
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:19:29 AM PDT
by
varon
To: He Rides A White Horse
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:21:59 AM PDT
by
holden
To: Catspaw
Considering his name is JHVH, or IHVH depending on the script used, your little "G-d" tag is nothing more than pretension.
Which "God" are you trying not to offend? Thor? Odin? Zeus? They are all "God's"... yet you don't see the faithful saying "J-piter" or "Ath-na".
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:23:37 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
To: Dead Corpse
Considering his name is JHVH, or IHVH depending on the script used, your little "G-d" tag is nothing more than pretension. Why is it my "little G-D" tag?" I'm not Jewish. However, unlike you, I respect my friends who are Jewish and choose to to spell "God" as "G-d."
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:28:38 AM PDT
by
Catspaw
To: LindaSOG
I understand the reasoning and can respect the historical context in which people chose to write God's name but it does not make practical sense. If we know that "G_d" means "God" than why couldn't someone deface it just the same? To me, as a catholic raised in a parochial school by a 5 foot tall nun with a 4 foot lead-lined pointer, I take this to mean the writer is a coward and afraid to put God's name on display for cowardly reasons.
The writer of this piece is concerned about God being removed from the public view yet we shouldn't even include him in our own text? Sounds like the terrorists won right out of the starting block. Doesn't make any sense...
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posted on
07/07/2003 5:30:40 AM PDT
by
Hatteras
(The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
To: Rodney King
The author makes a very good and undeniable point: The era when God was allowed in schools and when this nation respected our Creator was vastly diffferent from the present times.
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