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To: mvpel
i like little and big animale with faces - however, atached to each of thoes faces is a liver that produces cloestoral - recently i discovered, becauses i have eaten faces for a long time, my clorestrol accumulation in my heart artery had constricted one of the arteries 90% and i was a walking heart atack waiting to happen - through a modern marvel of angeoplasty, i now have full size arteries, assuming i refrain from colesterol and sugar - heart disease is the primary killer of adult males in the U.S. - eating meat may be worse that secomd-hand smoke in accumulating american dead bodies - there are a host of tasty sources of required protine if you tke the time to prepare them in a tasty manner - go ahead and eat your meat and dairy products - we will see you face up on the sidewalk someday and say, no, he didn't die from second-hand smoke
31 posted on 07/06/2003 1:20:59 PM PDT by ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
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To: ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
...there are a host of tasty sources of required protine if you tke the time to prepare them in a tasty manner - go ahead and eat your meat and dairy products - we will see you face up on the sidewalk someday and say, no, he didn't die from second-hand smoke.

The problem with the author of the initial article is that he's not content to let us go ahead and eat our meat and dairy products, he wants to wield the coercive force of government against us to prevent us from doing so.

32 posted on 07/06/2003 1:26:03 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
go ahead and eat your meat and dairy products - we will see you face up on the sidewalk someday and say, no, he didn't die from second-hand smoke

Sorry, you're wrong. Any death of any person who even ever saw a cigarette advertisement is 100% because of second-hand smoke. And it is always a premature death, even if the person was 96 years old.

I think I'll go finish grilling my burgers and add another large dollop of sour cream to the macaroni salad I am making.

37 posted on 07/06/2003 1:58:06 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
It's the sugar that causes cholesterol to bind to blood vessels.

People on high protein, low carb diets generally have a DROP in their cholesterol. Odd, but true.

38 posted on 07/06/2003 2:00:34 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
At this very moment we have a steak on the grill, baked potato in the oven as well as corn on the cob. I think I'll have a large dollop of butter/w sour cream on the potato and loads of butter on the corn on the cob. yum-yum. Does that make me an omnivore? I hope so. Later grazers.
40 posted on 07/06/2003 2:27:42 PM PDT by Rebel-without-a-pause
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To: ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
through a modern marvel of angeoplasty, i now have full size arteries, assuming i refrain from colesterol and sugar -

There's your problem right there. Sugar. Otherwise known as carbohydrates. That's the real killer. Not red meat. Excessive sugar causes insulin to spike in your body, converting the carbs to fat. Eliminate excess carbs (the average American consumes over 425 grams a day) in favor of protein and fat, and your body starts burning fat as fuel (instead of storing it).

As for cholesterol, the cholesterol you ingest has very little to do with the cholesterol count in your body. Not a single medical study can conclusively prove that eliminating foods high in cholesterol (such as eggs and beef) lowers your body cholesterol. In fact, your body produces its own cholesterol, whether or not you take it in as food. This is because your body needs cholesterol in order to function.

48 posted on 07/06/2003 6:43:29 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 249 (-51))
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To: ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
Being a vegan sure does not assist your spelling. I'm going to presume that American English is perhaps a 2nd or 3rd language for you. Otherwise, I would be forced to conclude that a longterm lack of red meat has damaged your higher logical and memory functions...
56 posted on 07/07/2003 12:01:25 AM PDT by jonascord (To Robert Service, with respect)
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