[poet]

Before I can reason with you, you first must don an objective hat and realize that those of you who defend bush's obscene socialist spending spree are no better than the clinton apologists who defended their guy's indefensible positions. My first solution would be to polarize the TRUE Constitutional conservatives and the liberals, libertarians, moderates into separate parties.

You sit there day in and day out insulting those of us who disagree with your political savior and when we point out his 2 1/2 year record you choose the insult route rather than address the issues we bring forward. You don't even bother to refute what we post, rather, you use snide remarks
or out and out insults.

Truth be told, if any of you can really defend bush's programs (most of which are the dem's programs), then I suggest that you are closet liberals posing as conservatives. You chalk his embracing and adopting the dem's programs as smart politics, I say it's the same old lies, duplicity and deceit. Can a real conservative win, probably not. I would settle for a 75% Conservative agenda and a 100% honoring of their sworn oath to uphold the Constitution. Bush and his partners in crime have violated their oaths on at least three occasions, i,e,; CFR, "patriot 1" and "homeland" ( that word brings the word Fatherland to my mind). What was wrong with National Security? Probably not european enough for the coming New World Order.

[CWOJackson]

"Probably not european enough for the coming New World Order."

I thought that old conspiracy theory had died. Thanks for reviving it. Now I can appreciate why you're part of the Purple Politician and Spitting Druid Society.

[nopardons]

If you'd take that chip off your shoulder, stop spouting lefty propaganda, and look at this Bush presidency with an unjaundiced eye, perhaps you could answer your own questions/change your mind.

Bush has gotten two tax cuts through, in 2 1/2 years. Are they big enough ? No, but it's a start and far different from what Clinton did.

I suggest that you read Malkin's latest article concerning the Patriot Act. She explains/refutes your paranoia, far better than I could , or wish to waste my time on you doing.

The CFR destroyed the Dem's soft money programs. You don't understand this any more than you " get " the Patriot Act.

You are the one calling anyone not as fanatical as you, a " closet Liberal "; yet, the LP shares many more positions with the Dems and especially the GREENIES, than they have ever, with the GOP. That's " Conservative " ? When pigs sprout wings and fly , it is.

Truth be told, you are not only a poltical naif, but can't refute those you oppose with any substancial, factual matterial.

[MJY1288]

Hey slick, Last night you claimed your freedoms were taken away because of the Patriot Act and I asked what freedoms you have lost since the enactment of the Patriot act and you ran off. Would you mind explaining to me just what freedoms you have lost since its implimentation and how much this administrations spending has cost you in your take home pay?

If you don't mind...Please be specific