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To: nopardons
I am not a man.

Opps, I should have known.

"I talk about tax cuts; you take about assumptions and taxes NOT levied by the president."

It's just a matter of time b4 other tax increases and/or add on fees. You know, gas taxes, vehicle use fees, etc.,


"I suggested that you read the Malkin article,"

I not only went to the link and read her column, I e-mailed her and told her I was surprised that she believes it is a good law. You do know that the perps of 9/11 violated laws against hi-jacking, theft, taking of hostages, murder and destruction of property, so you and she actually believe another law would stop people like these? No law prevents any crime. Laws are designed to punish, not prevent. It's the criminals that decide if they are going to obey the law.

The key issue as respects "patriot" as far as I'm concerned is the fact that section 802 has no expiration date while the rest of the act has a four year life. Why is that? That alone makes it suspect.

"Of course he signed the Farm Aide Bill. No president, since it came into being, has done otherwise. Real politics escapes you."

Oh, I see, perpetuating a failed policy is acceptable because Presidents have always done it. Nice!

"President Bush has NEVER said that he wants amnesty for"

Yes he did. He wants votes and thinks these people will vote for him. With all his re-hashing of dem's entitlement programs, he just may be correct.

"The LP wants OPEN BORDERS"

Excuse me, when did I say I agree with the LP's position on open borders or any other position of theirs or even even discussed the LP in my comment(s)?


"And HOW is that to be accomplished ? We have not only F-O-U-R borders, we have airports."

So, you are saying it's an unsolvable dilemma? How about just utilizing existing personnel more efficiently and enforcing the laws already on the books? And yes, I favor placing the National Guard on our borders, not the army, the National Guard.

"is it the military you want there, instead of them fighing in Afghanistan and Iraq ?" Iraq, hmmm, isn't that where they are searching for WMDs?

"You don't know what Socialism is, but you sure enjoy throwing around the word."

Say what? talk about a non-sensical comment.

Finally, I did reply to your liberal friend's question relative to the dangers of lost freedoms in "patriot". You do remember that I said "patriot poses a future danger? I just choose to ignore him/her. Oh yes, I was out of line for name calling. That's what you apologists do best and I fell into your sphere of personal vilification for which I apologize.





131 posted on 07/05/2003 8:42:51 AM PDT by poet
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To: poet
Oh goodness gracious, a little boy,, who imagines that women don't know nor understand things nearly as well as a male. ROTFLMSO

FYI ... not all women are emotional, ill educated, uninformed, irrational,little girls who are easily fooled, conned, or inferior to men. You should know better, but alas, you don't.

You complain and whinge about taxes, but when confronted by facts, retreat into fairyland, with " it's just a matter of time b4 other tax increases .... ".State and local governments impose taxes too and those are the ones you've decided to claim are the President's responsibilty. It is to laugh. You can't even stay on topic !

No law prevents any crime ? Really ? And where is the proof of that ? So, should we just do away with ALL laws then ? Welcome to anarchy and life a la " LORD OF THE FLIES "! The FFs most assuredly did NOT agree with your assessment of things. :-)

The laws and rules, put into place during WW II and to some extent, during WW I, had NO experation date either and they were , for the most part, recinded after those wars.

You may not aprove of the farm subsidies ( neither do I ) , but the consequences of NOT signing that Bill, would far outstrip what signing the Bill has done. You just don't get it. Eveery president has to pick his fights and weigh the outcomes. Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh.

There is NO way that we could, using the existing manpower of the National Gaurd, impliment the closing/watching over the FOUR borders of this country and the airports;NONE ! What you hubrisly suggest, is codswallop, based on nothing factual. Daydreams, armchair solutions, without a shred of possibility; not to mention the fact, that American citizens would be under even MORE, not less scrutiny, which, to you and your kind, is an anathema.

147 posted on 07/05/2003 2:37:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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