[AdamSelene235]

MY assertion was that the public schools of the United States supply the soldiers for the greatest military force in history. It is a highly technical force requiring educated personnel and reflects the educations received in the public schools of the United States.

Yes, and this technical prowess comes from thousand upon thousands of PHD's & engineers who do nothing all day but contemplate how to kill, sense, communicate, encrypt,etc. NOT the bloody government school system. This type of research is, after all, what I've done my entire professional career. And believe me it is very difficult to find Americans to do this sort of work due to the shabby educational standards in this nation. We have dozens of job openings that sit unfilled due to the lack of qualified candidates. Easily 1/3 of the scientists I work with are foreign born.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Isn't it amazing that America attracts the best from across the world to do its intellectual work? How astounding is that, why I am shocked to hear such things. Of course, one with even a passing knowledge of American history would merely say "Gee, so what is new?"

Ever hear of the Mahattan Project? Or the importation of English engineers to build industries and railroads during the 1800s. Get real, the reason these jobs are not filled by Americans is because there are too few people SMART enough to do the job, not merely that the school system is a failure. It is too busy turning out Lawyers since the people can see that a rapacious lawyer makes more than an engineer or physicist.

Very few Ph.D.s were in the forces that took Iraq, very few engineers either as a proportion of the forces. The bulk of the soldiers were young products of America's schools applying their educations to the wonder weapons provided them.

I wonder venture to guess that 1/3 of the faculty at the best universities in the Nation are foreign born and that this has been the case since the universities existed.

Your disparagement of public education in this regard and through those comments misses the mark by a long stretch.