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Berlusconi Nazi Comment Triggers Outrage
Associated Press via Yahoo! News ^ | July 2, 2003 | CONSTANT BRAND

Posted on 07/02/2003 11:09:06 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid

By CONSTANT BRAND, Associated Press Writer

BRUSSELS, Belgium - His country now leading the European Union (news - web sites), Italy's Silvio Berlusconi provoked an uproar Wednesday at the EU parliament by telling a German lawmaker he should star as a Nazi concentration camp guard in a movie.

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Berlusconi's remark confirmed some critics' fears that the Italian president was not fit to be the international face of Europe. Italy's richest man has been dogged by legal problems and accused of having conflicts of interest arising from his vast media holdings.

Some also question his commitment to EU platforms.

During a question-and-answer session following his speech, German socialist lawmaker Martin Schulz referred to Berlusconi's use of an Italian immunity law to sidestep bribery charges in a Milan court.

"In Italy, they are making a movie on Nazi concentration camps," Berlusconi snapped back. "I will propose you for the role of capo," or chief.

That prompted a rebuke from the president of the European Parliament, Pat Cox, who suspended the session after Berlusconi refused to withdraw his comment, saying it was meant as an "ironic joke."

Schulz said the remark showed Berlusconi was unfit to represent Europe.

Berlusconi's words "debase the presidency of the (EU) council and offend Europe," said Graham Watson, leader of the Liberal Democrat group in the European Parliament.

Schulz and Cox demanded an apology, but Berlusconi did not offer one.

Cox then closed the parliamentary debate, saying, "I regret the offense caused to a respected member, my colleague Mr. Schulz. It would be appropriate to correct the record in this regard. The debate is now closed."

During a news conference, Berlusconi again refused to apologize, insisting his Nazi comment was meant as a joke inspired by the German legislator's "tone and gestures."

"My joke wasn't meant to be offensive," Berlusconi said. "It was an ironic joke, perhaps the translation wasn't done in an ironic sense."

Berlusconi appeared before the parliament in Strasbourg, France, to outline his government's plans for the EU's six-month rotating presidency. Berlusconi will play a high-profile role in European and international politics, chairing major EU meetings, conferring with President Bush (news - web sites) and other global leaders and leading EU diplomacy concerning the Middle East, North Korea (news - web sites) and relations with Russia.

Berlusconi said boosting the EU's role on the world stage would only work if the bloc renewed ties with Washington.

However, attention quickly focused on Berlusconi's wheeler-dealer image and allegations by critics he is unfit to represent Europe.

On Monday, a Milan court suspended Berlusconi's trial for allegedly bribing Italian judges in the 1980s, years before he went into politics, to sway a ruling in the sale of state-held food conglomerate SME. The billionaire media mogul has denied the charges.

The trial was halted after the Italian Parliament last month adopted legislation granting legal immunity to top officials.

 

As Berlusconi rose to address the 626-member European Parliament, seven Green party members held up placards saying "everybody is equal under the law."

Berlusconi responded: "If this is your idea of democracy, you ought to visit Italy as tourists. You are behaving as tourists."

Berlusconi also pledged that his government would complete negotiations on the first constitution for an expanded EU and would combat illegal immigration. The bloc grows from 15 to 25 members next year.

"The Italian presidency will do all in its power ... to take responsible decisions on our future," Berlusconi said. "There is a great deal of moral and intellectual responsibility on our shoulders."

Even before the concentration camp remark, the debate focused as much on Berlusconi's personal suitability for the EU's top job as on his presidential agenda.

Green leader Monica Frassoni likened Berlusconi to Attila the Hun, whose barbarian hordes ravished Europe in the 5th century without regard for the law.

"Many people have been worried at your arrival, as an 'Attila of the Union,'" Frassoni said. "Political power, I'm afraid, leads to temptations to be above the law."

Berlusconi is Italy's richest man. He controls a $7.8 billion media empire that includes the nation's largest private television broadcaster, Mediaset.

Together with state-run RAI, he controls about 90 percent of Italy's television market, leading critics to charge he has too much influence over information that can be use for political and personal gains.


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1 posted on 07/02/2003 11:09:07 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
Schulz said the remark showed Berlusconi was unfit to represent Europe.

I guess Berlusconi didn't get the memo. The Nazis never existed, there is no such thing, it's a fairy tale, Europe is and always has been the paragon of peace and morality.

2 posted on 07/02/2003 11:13:16 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Road Map = Road Kill)
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To: The KG9 Kid
I don't get it, thought a person could do or be anything they wanted in the EU. This smell French to me, payback time for not following the French lead against the U.S.
3 posted on 07/02/2003 11:13:30 AM PDT by wvnavyvet
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To: The KG9 Kid
Truth hurts, Herr Schulz?
4 posted on 07/02/2003 11:16:23 AM PDT by Corporate Law (<><)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Really, what does Schulz know anyway.
5 posted on 07/02/2003 11:20:44 AM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: Corporate Law
Get real. Your joke isn´t funny.
6 posted on 07/02/2003 11:22:01 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: The KG9 Kid
Note they did NOT quote what the socialists said to Berlusconi FIRST, which precipitated B's reply.

"During a question-and-answer session following his speech, German socialist lawmaker Martin Schulz referred to Berlusconi's use of an Italian immunity law to sidestep bribery charges in a Milan court. "

I think it was "one good insult deserves another".
Also, how come these Germans weren't outraged when all of Europe was and still is running around comparing President Bush to Hitler?

I think the socialists are having a hissy fit, because Berlusconi is now EU president, and he is a staunch supporter of the US, in fact recently he made a statement that EU should work with the US, not against it.

7 posted on 07/02/2003 11:23:17 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: The KG9 Kid
During a question-and-answer session following his speech, German socialist lawmaker Martin Schulz referred to Berlusconi's use of an Italian immunity law to sidestep bribery charges in a Milan court.

"In Italy, they are making a movie on Nazi concentration camps," Berlusconi snapped back. "I will propose you for the role of capo," or chief.

In other words, Berlusconi will not be lectured on morality by a German totalitarian.

I need no sense of irony to appreciate that remark.

Bravo!

8 posted on 07/02/2003 11:25:24 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: FairOpinion; All
I just said this:

"Note they did NOT quote what the socialists said to Berlusconi FIRST, which precipitated B's reply. I think it was "one good insult deserves another".


Then I went to see if I could find what the German socialist said to Berlusconi, and sure enough, it was a bad insult to a new President of the EU:

"a leading German parliamentary deputy of the ruling
Social Democratic Party (SPD) called Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi a "sleaze person""

http://www.irna.ir/en/head/030702153822.ehe.shtml

99% of the press has headlines of Berlusconi's RESPONSE to the insult, but carefully avoids stating what the German socialist said to start this.
9 posted on 07/02/2003 11:30:34 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Michael81Dus
What joke?
10 posted on 07/02/2003 11:31:57 AM PDT by Corporate Law (<><)
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To: FairOpinion
Good find.
11 posted on 07/02/2003 11:32:41 AM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: Corporate Law
Berlusconis insult is ridiculous and anything else but true. You made a bad joke.
12 posted on 07/02/2003 11:34:12 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
"Get real. Your joke isn´t funny."

Exactly. Berlusconi was probably right on!! Schultz may very well be a perfect man to play a Nazi. LOL

Go get 'em Berlusconi!!!

13 posted on 07/02/2003 11:34:31 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: The KG9 Kid
Berlusconi responded: "If this is your idea of democracy, you ought to visit Italy as tourists. You are behaving as tourists."

Bwhahaahhaahhahahahhahahahah

14 posted on 07/02/2003 11:34:50 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Liberals - "The suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked")
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15 posted on 07/02/2003 11:35:58 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: The KG9 Kid
The article forgot to mention the German newspaper calling Berlusconi "The Godfather" -

Europe united in disgust as Berlusconi takes EU throne amid Green protests
The Independent (U.K.) ^ | 06/30/03 | Peter Popham


A shiver of dire anticipation ran through the continent at the weekend, with French, German, Spanish and British newspapers expressing foreboding. The German newspaper Die Zeit, referring to the new immunity law by the Italian Prime Minister extracted himself from a trial for bribing judges that was close to reaching a verdict, commented, "Berlusconi is putting himself above the law."

The paper argued that Europe should take developments in Italy as seriously as it did the election of the neo-fascist leader Jorg Haider in Austria three years ago, which prompted the EU to impose sanctions.

Der Spiegel, the German news weekly, labels Mr Berlusconi "The Godfather" on the cover of its latest issue, and comments, "at home he dismantles justice, subjugates television, has laws tailored to his needs. And now ... he will represent Europe."
16 posted on 07/02/2003 11:36:32 AM PDT by Weimdog
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Green leader Monica Frassoni likened Berlusconi to Attila the Hun, whose barbarian hordes ravished Europe in the 5th century without regard for the law.

So the Green wench can call him Attila the Hun, but he can't say someone should portray a Nazi in a movie...

Hmmm. I sense a bit of double standard here.

17 posted on 07/02/2003 11:36:54 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: BlueLancer
I think you completely miss the point. We are not in America, and contrary to you, we use to have manners when talking to each others. So, Mr. Schulz respectfully criticized Berlusconi. It was the Italian PM who could not deal with criticism (probably because he knows no criticism in a country in which he holds the media power...).
18 posted on 07/02/2003 11:38:11 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: The KG9 Kid
Oh I see. German politicians compare Bush to Hitler, and that's ok. But let an actual German be compared to a political party which once dominated his country, why, that's an outrage!
19 posted on 07/02/2003 11:39:37 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: TontoKowalski
Never call a German a Nazi if he is not one!! You may call that double standard, but it´s appropriate because the Nazi crimes are so serious you cannot make fun with them or use it for a political play.
20 posted on 07/02/2003 11:40:12 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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