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To: Kelly4023
I hate ignorance AND self pitying AND bigotry of any and ALL stripes. You are guilty of all of the aforementioned and then some.

Just as I don't associate with poor white trash, neither do I, with ghetto blacks.

When one has to sink to the level of using typos, as some sort of refutation and/or put down, one loses the debate/argument immediately. Best to look at your OWN postings, riddled as they are with typos, missplellings, ungrammatical English, and nonsentences. I haven't bothered to stick my finger in your eye, but perhaps I should . The word is spelled WHETHER , not wether and " she supposed " isn't English. You want more of your blindingly egregious mistakes shoved in your eye ? I'll comb through your myopic, bigotted posts and show you every single one of them. First take that beam out of your eye, before you even attempt to look for the mote in mine !

When I was 2 and 3, my two best friends, were a negro and a Chinese girl. I've had friends of all races, all religions, and almost ALL ethnicties all of my life. So can the bigot and racist remarks. You may imagine that you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

I said that I am white, becuase for all of your previous posts to me, you were talking to me as though I am black. I thought that you should know that I'm not. And when you did, then , THEN, the usua; ill educated, bigotted remarks flew. LOL

The whites, whom you asked, are very stupid. That's not a reflection on all whites; as I proved. Yes, I know " black " history; except that I prefer to call it AMERICAN HISTORY ! I know and know the names of prominet blacks; probably more than you do.

Level playing field ? The playing field hasn't been all that " level " for most people. The Irish, the Jews, Puerto Ricans, etc. haven't had a " level playing field " most of the time they've been here either. But, some people, like cream, have always managed to float to the top and make it...even WITH massive obsticals in their way.

And guess what ? It wasn't ONLY blacks, who used to look out for/ over the kids in neighborhoods. People of EVERY race used to do that. And poor whites, living in ghettos/the wrong side of the tracks, didn't have anyone to look up to. Just because some white man was the president of some company, or was president of the USA, didn't stop white criminals and juvenile delinquents from being what they were.

Here's a quiz...and without looking the names up/doing a goggle, tell me who the following people were/are : Jewel Stadford Lafontant,Wyat Tee Walker,Dr. William DeBerry,Hiram Revels,Judge George Lewis Ruffin, and Charles H. Smiley.

I went to boarding school with blacks, as did my daughter, I have black friends, and it's a matter of " class ", not race which differenciates us from others, NOT race. You can't see that. What's the matter with YOU ? And, by-the-by, including nasty refferences to alcohol, is besides the point...I don't drink alchohol often and neither do I do dope.

I know who Ida B. Wells was, what Jack and Jill and The Links is, and where SUGAR HILL is and who has and does live there. DO YOU ? I know a lot of blacks, whose names aren't " famous ", who have " made it " and hold positions far superior to the majority of whites. I also know what " DOIN' THE DOZENS " is ; though ghetto speak isn't something I think blacks should engage in, any more than I think that whites should talk in any other fashion than American English.

Afrimative Action is disrespectful to blacks. Just as keeping Spanish speakers in their own language is. Time was, when everyone was in a classroom because that's where they were. Blacks didn't consider doing well in school to be something NOT to do; rather, they were told, as were all children, that they needed to excell.

The Klan is history and didn't effect ALL blacks, though of course it had a deliterious effect on those who were exposed to it. Same is true for the Jews and Roman Catholics, whom the KKK went after as well.

Am I sure that I know REAL black people ? Yes, I do, but do the ones I know, NOT count, because they aren't ghetto blacks ? Will Roy Campanella and his stepson and children do ? How about Lena Horn ? How about the other 100 or so, I know, whom you've never heard of and the our fellow FREEPERs, who are black and my friends ?

Get over yourself, newbie, and realize that your continual playing of the race card, makes you little better than the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

81 posted on 08/13/2003 9:10:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Hey "I DON'T NO":

Where did the comment "you probably think O.J. is innocent" come from?
How did that enter into the discussion? Are you feeling alright?
....oh what a tangled web we weave.........

Still Special:
"K"
84 posted on 08/13/2003 9:45:43 PM PDT by Kelly4023 (I keep my eyes wide open all the time)
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To: nopardons
Pardon me boy, Is that the Chattanooga Choo Choo?
No, No!
read it my friend,
Just NP's drivel again!

I would have posted a rebuttal earlier, but I just couldn't get through this post without laughing. Oh the typos, the typos! It's okay about the typos.You just can't help it! Your postings seem very emotion-laden. I told you about that! Feel free to point out ANY and ALL of my typos: so far I missed an 'H' and an 'apostrophe s'. I guess I fail American English.

You must have worn your dictionary and thesaurus to dog ears by now! You used TWO BIG words!

I plead NOT GUILTY!! I will explain why: CLASSIST. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ISN'T IT? Why won't you assosciate with certian people? Better than they are? Drink a better brand of Whiskey?
Once again you point out that you "associate" with people of different races. So what? Off of your own pen (out of your own big mouth) you say that you don't associate with certain people; just ones like you? That fit into your little box of acceptability? I hope you all do more than sit around and talk "la de da", and about how the poor folk are poor because they want to be, the wretches!

"I said that I am white, becuase for all of your previous posts to me, you were talking to me as though I am black. I thought that you should know that I'm not."
Where is this coming from? Writing (talking!)to you as if you were Black? What are you on?
How am I supposed to post (talk?!) to you? Am I supposed to begin and end end my statements with "Mistress"? Am I being 'uppity'?. YOU were the first one to use "Black History". Now you want to "cave in"(after getting knocked upside the head) and change up? You were the one that started the "ghetto speak"(even though its 'old'). Thought you had too much class for that.
And speaking of "class" Where is yours? Why the repeated name game? Is that your way of pointing out to your "elite" friends that you are actually "down"?

You mentioned the Jews, the Irish and the Puerto Ricans. You forgot the Itlaians. They ALL had/have their own insulated communities, they all were able to keep their communities intact by trading with each other, and by controlling the rental or sale of property in their neighborhoods, and they all had a language seperate from the main language (the Jews also have a faith) . These insulating factors allow for increased nurturing and ethnic pride of their people. Something that society doesn't do. AND they taught each other how to get along, maintaining a respect factor and a societal order.
(AND by and lagre, these were white-skinned people.= more level playing field (especially if you could lose your accent and change your name)
These entities of nuturing and ethnic pride exist in the Black community, to a lesser degree now than before. Many of our best and brightest opt to move out of the community that spawned them. Ask your friends if I'm right.
You mentioned Sugar Hill. I grew up five and twenty-five minutes respectively from Sugar Hill and still live twenty-five minutes from it. Been in and out of it many times. What's happening there today? For that matter, what's happening in Harlem these days?

The KKK: who did they target most? Whom did they murder most? While I will not insensitively disregard any person of any race whom they terrorized, maimed or murdered, after they ceased to be a harmless fraternal order, they had a particular group of people in mind. Ones with NO protection from the greater society. Who were they?

A/A is still needed in this country, racism still exists. A/A definitely needs to change with the times. I think it is too early to totally abolish it. Look at the wage scale.
Once again; I asked about PARITY: ECONOMIC, EDUCATIONAL, FINANCIAL, POLITICAL.
Do Blacks have Parity with whites regarding these entities?
Are we as Black people supposed to forget about these entities and just link arms with whites, like we have been trying to more or less do for the last 150 years? Suddenly, because some conservatives and republicans say some malarkey about brotherhood, we should just fall in line? Have we overcome? Just Be Americans. Is that the Idea? We should "ID" each other because of our "class"? Just another form of bigotry. One you freely admit to!

Al Sharpton came out against the uneven distribution of legal justice between Blacks and whites, and is running for President of the United States.
Jesse Jackson, the one who marched with Martin Luther King, Jr. (you remember seeing him there, right?) came out for A/A when it was brand new, and ran for President of the United States. From where I'm sitting, that is not bad company to be associated with. Thanks.

MLK,Jr. had a good idea. Who is against it? Can you answer that? Why is it that when HISTORY is pointed to, white people in America don't wnat to see what the HISTORY really says? It's always "let's just move on". Ask your friends about that. the one's that are willing to be honest.

When you hear the whistle blowin' eight to the bar,
Then you know an NP post is not very far!
You really think your roastin',
but all you do is BOASTIN'
OOH OOH You need some knowledge in your head!

As always:
Very Very Extra Special
"K"
111 posted on 08/25/2003 12:45:16 PM PDT by Kelly4023 (I keep my eyes wide open all the time)
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