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To: Gabz
As I said, I understand your original point and I agree with it, but in this particular type of situation I disagree.

Again, will you only uphold/support/enforce laws you happen to agree with?

25 posted on 07/01/2003 8:37:08 AM PDT by HarryDunne
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To: HarryDunne
You are missing my point altogether.

My problem is with the enactment of laws that the state admits, prior to the enactment, it can not enforce and the public is required to do it.

Let me try a different way using the example of a bar I am familiar with that has been cited for violating the smoking ban in Delaware, the enforcement of which is public complaint driven as is the Florida ban.

The owner opposed the ban from the begininng, but when it went into effect the owner abided by it and enforces it, and does a very good job. supposedly some jerk, instead of going outside to have a cigarette, went to the men's room instead.

Neither the owner nor the bartender were in the men's room and did not see it - supposedly someone else entered the men's room and called the health department, instead of saying something to the bartender. The owner of the establishment was cited for a violation and fined. He appealed, but lost the appeal.

The owner was unable to face his accuser because the complaint was made anonymously, and thus was unable to defend himself. Where is the proof that the owner violated the smoking ban?

My problem with this type of enforcement is that, as someone else said, disgruntled employees or customers (think about someone getting cut off or barred from an establishment) can cost a business lots of money.

I am not advocating anarchy, but I do have a problem with enforcement of a law based upon anonymous omplaints.
28 posted on 07/01/2003 8:52:46 AM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: HarryDunne
Again, will you only uphold/support/enforce laws you happen to agree with?

That is correct. I will uphold and support a law that I agree with.
I will NOT enforce a law that I disagree, or agree, with. I am not a LEO.

It's called civil disobedience. If they want to ticket me for civil disobedience, so be it.
(Smoking? I didn't see anyone smoking occifer.)

That government is best which governs the least.
Thomas Jefferson

42 posted on 07/01/2003 10:59:32 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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