Here he is modeling the T-Shirt at a Vidovdan celebration:
Posted on 06/27/2003 5:02:45 PM PDT by joan
For all the Serbs around the world, in Serbia and the Diaspora. Pedal in Peace wishes everyone a great weekend of celebration. Dosta!!!
VIDOVDAN! KOSOVO JE SRBIJA, BOSNA JE SRBIJE. KOSOVO JE SRPSKA ZEMLJA!.
Remain strong and faithful to our faith, Serbia remains strong only if we remain strong. The Orthodox is our foundation, our pillar which we must never relinquish. Already, the Pedal in Peace founder has received disturbing phone calls from Croatians "criticizing" this endeavour. Ignorance is their fault while their bigotry will not detract from PiP's focus!
Pedal in Peace rides on Aug 02 through the 15th, ending in Presevo, Serbia after starting in Novi Grad, Republika Srpska.
Nor did it sit well with the Serb nationalist nutcases who offed him rather than see Bosnia's Serbs get too comfortable under the Austro-Hungarian empire and thus undercut efforts to unify the Serbs in one State.
Speaking of nutcases, why don't you help me figure out how Ujedinjenje ili Smirt's goals and methods are any different than those of their ideological descendants in the 1990's - that should be fun.
I'm not very comfortable revealing who this person is, but it's not really all that important. I was just trying to illustrate that I've heard Archduke Ferdinand was a "friend" of the Serbs from a reliable source.
Your remarks don't neccessarily contradict what I've heard and in many ways confirm the story. I suppose what is debatable is the definition of the word "friend".
Well, it is important because, (1) it is unheard of, and (2) I can not find any reference to the Archudke being related to anyone Serb, because it would place a different spin on a lot of historical and even crucial events.
To Serbs a kum (pronounced as "koom") is someone who sponsors a person at baptism. As such, that person takes upon himself (or herself -- kuma) to make sure the baptised person follows the Orthodox faith faithfully and correctly.
The people on this Forum may not be familiar with the Great Schism in 1054, but ever since then the Roman Catholic Church has officially been considered heretic by the Orthodox Church (which is the only church true to the Micine Creed and unchanged since then), and continues to be such as long as it claims infalability of its patriarch, aka the pope.
By 1914, when Archudke and his wife were murdered, the Roman Catholic Church had still some 76 years to go before it lifted its predicament of heresy on Galilleo Galillei, or 42 years before lifiting the flat earth theory for that matter!
I seriously doubt, therefore, that Franz Ferdinand, a Roman Catholic, was a kum to an Orthodox Serbian child of high-enough standing to be in such company, and I also don't know of any prominent Serbian family members who were Roman Catholic.
This issue is so sensitive that the fact that Serbia's much overrated language "reformer" (bastardizer is a more fitting term), Vuk Stefanovich Karadzhich (yeah, the same Montenegrin clan that Radovan comes from), married a German woman and, completely contrary to the usual habits of his time, crossed over to Roman Catholicism. That fact is kept marginalized to this day in Serbia, especially in view of the fact that Vuk worked very closely with Jernej (Batholomew) Kopitar, a Slovene, naturally Roman Catholic, who was also the Imperial Censor on the Franz Jospeh's court -- dedicated to the Austrian policy of alienating Serbs form their Russian cousins. How? By making Serbian Cyrillic illegible to Russians, which is precisely what Vuk did! Isn't that interesting?
Finally, a kum is considered family, and such an act of closeness to Serbs would have been a well known historical fact, in view of the events that followed.
Your remarks don't neccessarily contradict what I've heard and in many ways confirm the story
What I wrote does not confirm anything about this, shall we say, interesting piece of historical unknown. I was simply reflecting on the fact that was all too well known to the Archduke and that was that by the turn of the century the Slavs constituted betwen 43 and 47 percent of the population of the disintegrating Dual Monarchy.
Archduke was also keenly aware of the fact that the Monarchy was dealt a mortal blow after being defeated by the Prussians and after having lost territory to Italians. The Monarchy was dethorned as a leading German power and was eclipsed by the newly created German Empire that was ethnically more homogenious and united.
Austria's demise by their own kin was only one of many blows to the state and the Habsburg family. Maximillian was shot and killed as a clown-emperor in Mexico. Franz Joseph's youngest brother was unfit for office because he preferred to have "indiscretions" with boys in public baths, and Franz Joseph's only son committed suicide.
Franz Joseph may have been more predisposed to some Slavs, but he was no friend of Serbs. He simply realized that without some type of Slavic backing the Monarchy would not survive.
I would like to repat, therefore, that the alleged kumovanye of Archudke Ferdnand to hig-society Serebs is news to me, and is probably one of the best kept historical secrets, and that my statements about the Austro-Hungarian Empire do not in any way confirm your story.
Archduke Franz Fedinand vice Franz Joseph.
The word is derived from the Serbian word "sretya" (happiness, good luck) where the sufix "-tya" has morphed (by a process known as "yotovanye" or iotization, a common tranformation in Slavic languages) to -cha, similar to the way "tu" morphs into "chu" in the English word -- furniture, which sound like "fer-ni-chur."
The correct term then is srechan or srechni and not sretan.
Srechno,
Kosta
Please give me some time to get the "okay" to reveal the names. Although this information wasn't given to me in the "strictest of confideneses", I'm not quick to reveal my sources if I feel anybody could be hurt other than myself by my lipping off.
Here he is modeling the T-Shirt at a Vidovdan celebration:
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