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To: tdadams
This isn't some new theory I've created. Aldous Huxley's Brave New World described a repressive totalitarian society that kept the population docile via a "liberal" dose of sex and drugs.

The left knows that a percentage of the population will trade away their actual liberties (free speech, property rights, gun rights, etc.) for sensual pleasures. Legal abortion and legal homosexual sodomy aren't threats to an expansive state. In fact, they encourage it. But traditional liberties and traditional Judeo-Christian family values are such a threat.

So for "liberals" and other socialists, it's a great trade-off if people start defining freedom as sexual libertinism. It creates a snowball effect, because the cultural rot in society created by sexual irresponsibility leads to still more government intervention. For example, in the 1950's we didn't have millions and millions of unwed teen moms needing to be taken care of by government for the rest of their lives.

So things like yesterday's sodomy ruling trigger consequences that demand governmental intervention, MORE governmental intervention than was required to ban sodomy in the first place (largely a symbolic law to keep gays discrete). And more and more people in our dumbed down society will now associate "liberty" with sodomy rather than freedom of association or the right to bear arms, the latter two being under assault by the same court system that fawns over sodomy.

An immoral people will not stay free for the long haul. The "liberals" know this and work tirelessly to immoralize our society.
1,556 posted on 06/27/2003 7:00:54 AM PDT by puroresu
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To: puroresu
Hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to smoke pot or have "unapproved" sex, two activities which harm no one and should be of no concern to the state, how does it serve to reduce the pervasiveness of government to empower the government to arbitrarily dictate that I'm not permitted to do those things?

You have some wacky logic.

1,559 posted on 06/27/2003 7:13:23 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: puroresu
So things like yesterday's sodomy ruling trigger consequences that demand governmental intervention, MORE governmental intervention

Congratulations, you've somehow managed to twist this 180 degrees completely backwards. The ruling yesterday effectively says to the government, "Back off. It's none of your business."

1,560 posted on 06/27/2003 7:16:24 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: puroresu
An immoral people will not stay free for the long haul. The "liberals" know this and work tirelessly to immoralize our society.

Anyone who can't see the truth of your statements doesn't want to see the truth.

1,667 posted on 06/27/2003 9:05:24 PM PDT by First Amendment
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