Posted on 06/26/2003 7:08:23 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
I don't know why, maybe for cultural reasons and the slippery slope that homosexuals might want to compare themselves to heterosexuals?
Is that a compelling state interest?
Do you have a source for that? Or are you just pulling silly arguments out of your hat?
Uh-oh.
There's also no "right to privacy" a la Roe which, unbelievably Kennedy cited as precedent.
The Constitution doesn't mean crap any more and states have become superfluous.
You may well be right about the Valley but "this continent" Come on! Every now and again I receive a spammed e-mail with links to all sorts of "explicit - woman loves horse" links. Are you telling me that all this sick s*** is made overseas? Please.
Notice that bestially was prefaced with 'commercial'. Depiction and production of bestiality for commercial purposes (and others as well) is illegal in Canada, the US and Mexico. Most likely, if you get one of those emails, all servers storing data that they advertise will be outside of N. America.
Try building a machine gun in your basement (easily done) and you'll find out about "enforcement" against actions in your own home which harm no one. Assuming you survive said "enforcement action", that is.
I'm not aware of any such law.
That's why the Texas sodomy law was ripe for overturning.
Sodomy laws applied only to homosexuals and bisexuals was a novel idea not grounded on our traditions, or our common law, or our Constitution.
LOL! Sinkspur is most definitely NOT a libertarian, nor do I think is he a big fan of them.
If people have changed their opinions so greatly, then there should be no problem with voting on this, should there.
No, I still would. Homosexuality is immoral now and forever. Having said that, I'm consistently amused by you libertarians always instantly promoting social conservatives to positions of super-authority. Gotta be Freudian. Anyway, if society has descended to that point and people have no problem with it, there's not much one guy banging away on a keybord on the North Shore can do about it.
Are you saying that it's right??
That is absolutely ridiculous. Just when I think the logical contortions can't get any more disingenuous...
No one is mandating amorality. You're free to be as moral as you please.
Yes they were, well aparently their own apartment. The cops *did not* know they were having sex. A neighbor reported someone "going crazy", and they broke in on probable cause of a crime in progress. Just not the crime they arrested the men for. But that apparently doesn't enter into the decision. If it did, all drug busts at "seatbelt" checkpoints would be invalid, and they're not.
That argument has all the veracity of a trial lawyer working on a contingency fee.
Completely irrelevant. Under the libertarian construction of things, if people voluntarily agree to organize society in any way they wish, that's kosher with libertarians. Doesn't matter if the land is communally owned or privately owned. The small society has to agree, voluntarily, on social organization. However they do that is irrelevant to the argument, because whichever way they do it, it's voluntary. Perfect libertarianism.
Are you asserting that the gay men are breaking a rule they consented to? This is a profound breakdown of logic on your part
I stated that there was a pre-existing taboo (social rule) on sodomy. It was well established. By living in that society, they agree to abide by it.
A libertarian society cannot have laws that initiate force or fraud, no matter if everyone there agrees to them. The gay people in your example never initiated force or fraud in their actions.
Sure they did. They initiated fraud. There was a pre-existing, informal, covenantal agreement forbidding homosexuality. They broke it.
I can understand why you're arguing specifics. You've pretty much lost the broad point.
Your obfuscation is well noted pain...
What? I think they deserve a fighting chance to either run away or to turn on their assailants and bite, kick, peck or claw the snot out of them, don't you? :)
Your obfuscation is well noted pain...
Ya'll's devotion to one another is admirable. It brings tears to my eyes, it does...
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