[Buckeroo]

Of course Hussein had WMD. No sane person disputes this fact. What I am saying is that America GAVE WMD to Hussein, to begin with. Our government has a flawed foreign policy that permits these atrocities; in fact, our government here in America encourages wars around the world; thats why America is everywhere acting as a cop.

[antienvironmentalist]

What I am saying is that America GAVE WMD to Hussein, to begin with.

Please provide documentation to back this up.

I have read this entire thread *pats himself on the back*, and I must say that you have presented little or no facts (until your second to last post regarding illegals receiving visas)and many vitriolic posts, aimed at denouncing other posters.

Now believe me, I fear the meteoric rise of government intrusion into the lives of Americans as much as anyone else, and I hope that you are sincere in your beliefs, but there are simply too many "red flags" in your posts for me to trust you. Supporting Palestinian terrorist, by claiming they are freedom fighters is really the straw that broke it for me. You may be a true constitutionalist, but you sound like a writer for the Workers World website.

Why don't you, if you really are a constitutionalist, cool down and start to look at the current state of affairs in the world in a realistic sense. We all can bitch and moan about how far our liberties and, as you have mentioned over and over, dignities have eroded, but we also must look at the issue at hand. Fundementalist Islamisists want Westerners dead. Period. Not because of our support of Israel, not because of our alleged meddlings in their region, but because of our values, religion and lifestyle. We need to come together now to fight this. We do not need to argue over the past century of government growth, not now, not in this context. There will be time to do that after we have basic security (which 9/11 proved we did not.)

Now, you may say that this threat to our security is an illusion created by the government to cover up their infringement on our liberties, but I really hope you don't. Anyone with eyes can read the writing on the wall, there is a real threat to our national security, GW Bush is fighting it. I have neither the time or the patients to argue with someone who denies this.

[Long Cut]

" What I am saying is that America GAVE WMD to Hussein, to begin with."

And once again, you have the gall to REPEAT this lie, when it was refuted back in post #47.

That's no less than three times, this thread. Liar.

To all: Bucky has now repeated a CONCLUSIVE, PROVEN lie three times, and has been called on it at every turn. He has, thus far, simply avoided responding to this proof of his mendacity.

In short, anything he says should be viewed in this light.

[Long Cut]

I guess you're back to repeating your old slanderous lies about MY country, huh, Buckyboy?

Haven't you been proven to be enough of a liar yet?