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To: Hoplite
Just in case I wasn't clear. The point being that if "mass genocide" was occuring, then the Socialist's position is unquestionably "unjust".

However, it turns out to be a couple of thousand and that can possibly be explained by a "just" war against terrorists.

So that put's us in the position that the NATO and Clinton polititians clearly exaggerated and possibly outright lied. Which means we have to consider the possiblitiy that the Socialist's were in fact telling the truth.

It may be that the socialists were lying and are guilty of murder and war crimes although not as large as our politicians led us to believe. It may also be that the Socialists are guilty only of being socialists and not of war crimes.

55 posted on 06/19/2003 5:03:50 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: DannyTN
It may be that the socialists were lying and are guilty of murder and war crimes although not as large as our politicians led us to believe. It may also be that the Socialists are guilty only of being socialists and not of war crimes.

I think this was the scenerio. I've talked to Serbian MUPs that were in Kosovo during all of this. They had very strict orders not to harm any Albanians that were not hurting any Serbs. That being said, they also claimed that many Albanians were killed and trucked out. Serbian intelligence knew very well where the KLA cells were operating and which Albanian clans were supporting them. I assume they weren't shone much mercy when Serb forces happened upon them.

Ironicly, they claim that many more Albanians (I'm going to assume innocent) would have been killed if Milosevic weren't so vehemently opposed to attacks on just any Albanians.

So, we've got regular Serb forces fighting the KLA and dodging NATO's bombs, the KLA fighting Serb forces and any group of Albanians loyal to Serbia or opposed to the KLA, Serb paramilitary and militia groups fighting anything Albanian, NATO acting as the KLA's airforce, and the US State Department shovelling crap to the US public via the media.

There were war crimes committed (has there ever been a war when there wasn't any war crimes committed?) We were lied to in regards to what degree and exactly what was actually going on on the ground.

One US State Department official I spoke to claims we got involved in Bosnia because something had to be done to stop the fighting (I disagree with him, but that's another story) but our reasons for getting involved in Kosovo were stricly political. I bought the guy a few drinks and tried to pry more information out of him, but he wouldn't expound.

56 posted on 06/19/2003 6:10:50 PM PDT by getoffmylawn (Chauncey Gardner or Bob Roberts?)
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