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To: ConstitutionLover
Your claim that the U.S. Constitution grants rights to the states shows your ignorance of Constitutional law.

I did not claim that.

The U.S. Constitution claims certain rights that take precedence over state law but the states are not dependent on the Federal Constitution to grant their rights to them.

Didn't say that either. However, the federal Constitution does prohibit some things to the States.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

But you ignore any constitutional authority that doesn't concur with your perceptions of how things should be so you damn John Adams and anyone else who disagrees with you. Stop claiming constitutional rights that don't exist!

This isn't about education it's about parental authority. It's about who decides what is best for each child. In other words who is actually the legal guardian of a child, the individual, be they parent or other legal guardian, or the State?
Rights that don't exist?

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

It is obvious who you think does and should retain legal custody of all children.
Heil Hitlery! It takes a village!

308 posted on 06/27/2003 7:04:08 AM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right ... so was PT Barnum!)
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To: TigersEye
Here are your words: "...perhaps the Mass. constitution exceeds the authority granted to the States by the federal Constitution". That sounds to me like you're claiming that the Federal Constitution is granting rights to the states and that the states are dependent on the Federal government for those rights.

Nothing you've presented here places the U.S. Constitution in conflict with the Massachusetts Constitution. I certainly don't believe that "It takes a village..." crap but there are certain situations when the state has to take some responsibility. Certainly when parents abuse their children, the state must step in. And if John Adams was correct when he wrote in the Massachusetts Constitution that education "among the body of the people, being necessary for the preservation of their rights and liberties", then the state has a clear responsibility here to insure that parents are providing some form of adequate education to their children.

310 posted on 06/30/2003 10:39:37 AM PDT by ConstitutionLover
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