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I have a small collection of AR-15's which includes just about every variant.........you would be very surprised with the results from an Olympic Ultramatch preban.........right out of the box I was shooting 1 inch groups at 50 yards.......with a little extra grooming, I no longer shoot at convential targets......I now shoot at quarters, knobs off of radios, pop top lids........at a distance of between 50 to 100 yards.......no bench rests or sand bags......I don't hit them all the time but I hit them enough to scare the crap out of my friends, one of who was a marine sniper.......and I do it with stock police ammo......