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To: Shooter 2.5
I do believe I have seen said video. Just about any projectile will be deflected by debris, brush, even wind gusts. The factor I find most important about the problem of deflection, is how far from the target is the deflection going to take place. As I believe it was you(maybe not)who asks the MOA of deflection; if the MOA is slight, as it could be with a fast, heavy projectile, proximity to the target, even size of the target, may make the risk of deflection well worth the shot in combat. With a semi-auto repeater, the 1st or subsequent rounds may clear the offending brush from the shooting lane. This rather wordy statement being the meaning of the Cadillac vs. the Bug.

Lots of good arguments for the pros and cons of mouse guns(I love my AR-15)vs. a good fast .30 cal like .30-06 SPRG or .308 WIN or even and 8x57 MAUSER. If I had to do the combat gig where potential shots will have risks of deflection from grasses or brush, I might want to carry that M-14 loaded up with 7.62 NATO, as long as I didn't have to climb alot of mountains. It would be nice to know the situation one is facing for the day and have a choice.

I was just watching on the History Channel how during WW2 in the Pacific theater, a particular Marine commander set up a squad with a squad leader, and three groups of three gunmen. The leader was carring a 1911, and each group was armed with a BAR, an M-1 Garrand and a Tommygun. Now that's firepower!

Best bet is to be a good rifleman.
124 posted on 06/16/2003 9:58:42 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (I need to keep my .50 BMG so I can stop you when you come to take it. ><>)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
I always thought that our forces should be trained with multiple weapons. I liked the idea of using a M-16 or one of the variants in an area where supply might be difficult and ranges are short.

An AR-10 with the same familiarity would be nice if the ranges are long and supply and transportation is available. The difference was someone objected to the .30 in the AR-10 and suggested a .270 or 6 MM range. I think I can go along with that.

I dearly love the Garands but their days are past. However I do like the idea the M-14's are hanging on. You mentioned the leader carrying a 1911 which may still be a current situation. Instead of the BAR, it would be a SAW, instead of the tommy gun, a MP-5 and instead of the Garands, it would be a M-16 with a 203 launcher on it.

Time marches on.
128 posted on 06/17/2003 6:39:05 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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