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To: stryker
I'm overwhelmed by illogical thinking. You do not even know the definition of an "assault" (it's not a remedy for hemmoroids), nor can you demonstrate how any crime occurred calling for deadly force that the police didn't initiate by using hot pursuit for a traffic violation.

OK, dumbs**t, I'll explain it to you:

Fleeing from a routine traffic stop is usually associated with already having committed a felony, and the felon knowing that he's about to get popped for same.

Pointing a firearm-sized object at somebody in an isoceles shooting stance is assault.

Most jurisdictions in the United States have denied their police their little death dealing joy rides by this time.

Most jurisdictions in the United States have serious crime problems and refuse to solve them.

My law enforcement friends, and I have many of them having been in the business for many years, admit that they love the chase.

Guys who wear "law enforcement" outfits at the local gay S&M bar are not really in law enforcement.

Unfortunately for this poor guy, he chose the wrong place to drive erratically and then flee for whatever reason: past due child support, no license, no insurance, parking tickets, etc..

Yeah, how about that s**t? One's actions generally have consequences, eh?

Once again, real police work means getting the license plate number and arresting the man when he doesn't expect it and no harm is presented to himself or other civilians.

Instead, you try to do an arrest in the guy's home, which is his castle. "Have fun storming the castle!"

The British do it all of the time, but it's not cowboy enough for American cops.

The British, because of gun-control laws, don't have to worry about the point I just brought up.

We would rather kill innocents than properly arrest and proportionately punish the guilty.

Get this straight: he was not innocent.

143 posted on 06/20/2003 5:14:21 AM PDT by Poohbah (I must be all here, because I'm not all there!)
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To: Poohbah
This conversation is pointless in that you spend no time thinking. You feel a certain way and then write what you feel. I will make a couple of final points and then call it quits.

An assault is a verbal threat coupled with the apparent ability to carry out the threat. Hence, pointing your cellular at someone in any manner is not an assault, unless you are verbally threatening to use it in some manner that would lead to serious bodily harm or death.

Fleeing from a traffic stop does usually mean that the driver has an outstanding warrant. There are millions upon millions of outstanding warrants in this country, most for such things as driving without insurance or failure to pay child support. It is for that very reason that most jurisdictions have or are considering prohibiting their officers from engaging in hot pursuit except in the case of a known violent felon being in the pursued car. The number of deaths stemming from hot pursuit are simply too high a price to pay when the police can simply take down a tag number and arrest the violator at work, home or other place when he is not in a position to flee.

As for being innocent, current studies indicate that the average American commits at least one felony and a host of misdemeanors every year due to the vast quantity of laws that have been promulgated in the last thirty years. Congress and the state legislative bodies have delegated their rule making powers to bureacracies that can also establish criminal liabily for violation of rules that the particular agency generates. Hence, if, for instance, you poor your used oil out in your back yard, you may well be guilty of a felony in some states. The point is, we are all felons now, and it's only a matter of who gets caught and which laws they choose to emphasize for enforcement purposes. And with so many criminal laws, every increase in funding for enforcement results in more arrests and therefore higher crime rates (even though the crime rate has in reality remained constant). We therefore are buying our way into a true police state. Something about you makes me think you will like a cop on every corner, though.

BTW, couldn't you come up with a little sarcasm or wit or engaging turn of a phrase, rather than just calling me a dumbshit. It makes you look unintelligent. Just my opinion.

145 posted on 06/21/2003 11:45:23 PM PDT by stryker
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